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post Mar 1 2013, 01:05 PM
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Two Lib Dem town councillors (Liz Slater and Mukesh Bansal - both Victoria ward) have resigned because they have better things to do with their lives.

Which means a by-election to select their replacements. As the Lib Dems have a majority of only one on the council this could see the Tories taking over, though their past performance in Victoria doesn't seem that promising.

Anyone fancy standing? http://newbury.gov.uk/pdfs/news/NTC-Vacanc...ce-28-02-13.pdf
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post Mar 1 2013, 02:24 PM
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Mmmm, maybe, how much is a deposit these days?
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post Mar 1 2013, 02:27 PM
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Surely first requirement is for lots of NTC constituents to write in requiring the election, otherwise it will be Old Pals.......
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post Mar 1 2013, 03:15 PM
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Have regular constituents ever actually called for an election?
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post Mar 1 2013, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 1 2013, 02:24 PM) *
Mmmm, maybe, how much is a deposit these days?

I know there is a large deposit (£600?) for a parliamentary election, but is one required for council elections? If there were, I doubt anyone would stand!

Edit: just checked my facts - £500 for parliament and £5000 for Police Commissioner (!). No mention of anything else.
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post Mar 1 2013, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 1 2013, 02:24 PM) *
Mmmm, maybe, how much is a deposit these days?
Nothing for a Parish or Town, as far I'm aware.
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post Mar 1 2013, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 1 2013, 03:15 PM) *
Have regular constituents ever actually called for an election?


Probably not, which is how the Old Pals retain control
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post Mar 1 2013, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 1 2013, 06:22 PM) *
Probably not, which is how the Old Pals retain control
There was an election less than two years ago.
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post Mar 1 2013, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 1 2013, 07:41 PM) *
There was an election less than two years ago.



I am talking more about the co-option process, but the band of luminaries who stand for election are rarely likely to come up with any progressive activity......
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post Mar 1 2013, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Mar 1 2013, 07:46 PM) *
I am talking more about the co-option process, but the band of luminaries who stand for election are rarely likely to come up with any progressive activity......
Almost anyone can stand for election, it's not the "band of luminaries" you should blame but those you're implying should stand, but don't.
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post Mar 1 2013, 09:31 PM
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I was talking more along he lines of political activists tend the to be the "constituents" who call for elections.
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post Mar 2 2013, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 1 2013, 09:31 PM) *
I was talking more along he lines of political activists tend the to be the "constituents" who call for elections.


Agreed, and I don't disagree with user either.

My point is Parish Councils, at the bottom of the political pile, are the easiest place for an independent to make a stand - start up the ladder, even - but it does not happen often enough. The party structure strangles local politics, even at Parish/Town level. Hungerford Town Council used to be proudly apolitical.
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post Mar 2 2013, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 1 2013, 08:04 PM) *
Almost anyone can stand for election, it's not the "band of luminaries" you should blame but those you're implying should stand, but don't.

I wouldn't blame them either, I'd blame the people who do and don't vote, with their selfish and unrealistic expectations.
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post Mar 2 2013, 02:26 PM
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In reality, is there any point in standing? This is after all a parish council with little or no real authority over anything that matters. That two councillors have resigned speaks volumes. Really would be better just to wind it up; our local residents association manages to do more an d that's at no cost.


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post Mar 2 2013, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Mar 2 2013, 02:26 PM) *
In reality, is there any point in standing? This is after all a parish council with little or no real authority over anything that matters. That two councillors have resigned speaks volumes. Really would be better just to wind it up; our local residents association manages to do more an d that's at no cost.


Agree.

I just wonder if these decisions have anything to do with the, secret, outcome of the Parkway cracks fiasco? rolleyes.gif


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Simon Kirby
post Mar 2 2013, 07:18 PM
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I'd like to stand but it would be humiliating to get no votes, and if I got in it would still be very difficult to get a public discussion on anything meaningful with the agenda controlled by the self-serving esatblishment.

Even so it would also be good to get a few things onto the agenda. Things like:

The cracks fu-bar and general Victoria Park snafu with the possibility of passing it all back to WBC.
Saving £100k through allotment self-management.
Saving £100k by doing without a mayor.
Saving £100k by moving out of the town hall.
Saving £100k by dropping the charter market.
Saving £100k by cutting all the lady-bountiful funding to local clubs and groups

There really needs to be a serious discussion about whether there is a need for the town council at all or whether everything they do couldn't be done more professionally and accountably by WBC - it really is amazing how little they achieve with so much. My personal view is that a parish council should be at the centre of an active community, but NTC just don't understand community and it's all about being as big and important as possible, and de-parishing may now be the best option - creating a little vacuum so that community organisations can fill it.

Obviously, any discussion on that whole agenda will be vigorously resisted, but it would be good to see it happening.

Oh, and if any Independents get elected - do feel free to send me a copy of those secret February 2011 meeting minutes.


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Richard Garvie
post Mar 3 2013, 09:11 AM
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I plan to run for election because I actually want to be a councillor and make a contribution in Newbury. I just hope that the people of Newbury don't vote for more paper candidates from the Tories and Lib Dems!!

I will publish my manifesto soon, but I plan to run in an effort to improve transparency in the town. Don't forget both the Fib Dems and Tories have held back information on the Parkway cracks issue, treating the electorate with contempt. I'd also like to pt a stop to empire building by the Lib Dems, who try to take on extra responsibilities as a parish council because they can't win control of the district council.

Maybe in an effort to save costs, the council would consider co-opting me and Simon? (I won't bank on it!)

If anyone would like to help me get elected, please let me know - richard.garvie@gmail.com

(Good luck Simon - you should totally do it!!!)
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post Mar 3 2013, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 3 2013, 09:11 AM) *
the Fib Dems


Well it's good to see you've started your campaign without resorting to childish name-calling. Who says you cannot campaign in a positive manner? rolleyes.gif
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Andy Capp
post Mar 3 2013, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Mar 3 2013, 03:03 PM) *
Well it's good to see you've started your campaign without resorting to childish name-calling. Who says you cannot campaign in a positive manner? rolleyes.gif

Yes, the spin of a spinner!
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post Mar 3 2013, 07:45 PM
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*spanner
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