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Sep 25 2013, 10:10 PM
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Some people seem to think that when they bought their house, they also bought the road and footpath outside. They'd feel slightly different about it if they were made to pay directly for the upkeep of that individual length. It's a different form of nimbyism where nobody is allowed to park in 'their' road. Understandably they may get upset if someone turns up in a dirty great Range Rover and parks up on the grass verge every day throughout the long wet winter months, as those things can weigh nearly 3t and can turn a grass verge into the Somme within one wheel turn. But mostly it's just commuters turning up, parking alongside the kerb and going off to work. No doubt some of those that live in Shaw who are complaining also commute themselves and they do the same thing to different residents in the streets near where they work. The complaints however are always to do with the supposed FRAUD.... as EVERYONE in Vodafone gets huge handouts for walking or catching a bus to work.. Some of these curtain twitchers in Dene Way need to get out more.....
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Sep 26 2013, 06:39 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 25 2013, 11:10 PM) ........ The complaints however are always to do with the supposed FRAUD.... as EVERYONE in Vodafone gets huge handouts for walking or catching a bus to work.. That is an assumption and pretty nasty one at that, assuming wrong doing by everyone who happens to be parking in your street -I'm glad I don't live amongst them. The remuneration packages employees get from any private firm are confidential anyway. On this basis, from the state of the surface, everyone walking down Northbrook Street is a gum chewing, anti social littering smoker!
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Sep 26 2013, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 26 2013, 07:39 AM) That is an assumption and pretty nasty one at that, assuming wrong doing by everyone who happens to be parking in your street -I'm glad I don't live amongst them. The remuneration packages employees get from any private firm are confidential anyway. On this basis, from the state of the surface, everyone walking down Northbrook Street is a gum chewing, anti social littering smoker! I omitted the rolling eyes thingy from my paragraph.... (but I'll add them now to make it clear ) However going from that NWN report it was full of allegations of fraud and assumptions 'they're all at it...'
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Sep 26 2013, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 25 2013, 11:10 PM) EVERYONE in Vodafone gets huge handouts for walking or catching a bus to work.. Factually incorrect. As I understand it many Vodafone employees are offered a 'green incentive' not to use a car park space, but not all. How they get to work is their choice but they can walk, cycle, get a lift, use a taxi or one of the many free commuter bus services, or even ride a motorbike to the Shaw site. Employees who do drive to work and utilise a car park space do not qualify for the green incentive. They may be forced to drive because they can't use any of the alternatives detailed above, or they might have childcare needs, for example. There are also non-Vodafone employees who drive to the site, for whom the incentive is not applicable. I can understand local residents frustration. Not that they think their roads belong to them, but that there are a large number of cars parking there during the day, which inconvenience them in one way or another, and more than likely belong to Voda employees, who might well be claiming the green money, fraudulantly. One solution would be for permits to be given to local residents, but is it worth it? I can't see Vodafone wanting to pay for that, and I don't see why the Council should either. It's a bit of a lose/lose situation in my eyes.
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Sep 26 2013, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Sep 26 2013, 09:31 AM) I'm just surprised that WBC haven't decided to introduce parking charges on the affected streets. Now that would really be a community gain! Can you hear the LibDims squeaking away like demented guinea pigs if anyone even dared promote it. Seriously, a great idea.
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Sep 26 2013, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 26 2013, 10:22 AM) Factually incorrect. See my last post. It's a comment that's often made though by many residential curtain twitchers in Newbury. If they see anyone parking in 'their road' and walking off to work then "they must be Vodafone employees claiming a bounty for catching the bus. It's disgusting that they get away with fraud"....etc etc I know of residents in Herewood Close who used to report parked cars through to Vodafone! Herewood Close is miles from Vodafone! It was more likely that they were people working into the town centre for their work, but these residents were convinced it must be VF employees. Paranoid they were....
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Sep 26 2013, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 26 2013, 10:22 AM) One solution would be for permits to be given to local residents, but is it worth it? I can't see Vodafone wanting to pay for that, and I don't see why the Council should either. It's a bit of a lose/lose situation in my eyes. And why should VF employees be prevented from parking on the PUBLIC highway in any case. By paying our car tax we're helping to pay for it's upkeep, whether it's a stretch of motorway or the little bit outside the curtain twitchers house in Dene Way....
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Sep 26 2013, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 26 2013, 10:22 AM) .....
I can understand local residents frustration. Not that they think their roads belong to them, but that there are a large number of cars parking there during the day, which inconvenience them in one way or another, and more than likely belong to Voda employees, who might well be claiming the green money, fraudulantly.
One solution would be for permits to be given to local residents, but is it worth it? I can't see Vodafone wanting to pay for that, and I don't see why the Council should either. It's a bit of a lose/lose situation in my eyes. Sorry, but I can't understand the residents. This is what happens if you live in a successful urban area. Do the residents all walk or bus to their own places of employment, never park by the side of the road when shopping in town, always use public car parks when they go visiting? If they really do want to avoid kerbside parking, simple answer is to move. Some housing going up in Compton shortly. No, this is selfish nimbisim. Vodafone have just got caught in the cross fire and why on earth should they pay? Black dog has provided the answer; let's see if the moaners go with that.
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Sep 26 2013, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 26 2013, 10:38 AM) And why should VF employees be prevented from parking on the PUBLIC highway in any case. By paying our car tax we're helping to pay for it's upkeep, whether it's a stretch of motorway or the little bit outside the curtain twitchers house in Dene Way.... Spot on S!
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Sep 26 2013, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 26 2013, 10:38 AM) why should VF employees be prevented from parking on the PUBLIC highway Because as part of their terms of employment (green scheme at least) they're not allowed to park within a certain distance of the HQ site. 2 miles or 30 minutes walk, if I remember correctly.
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Sep 26 2013, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 26 2013, 10:56 AM) Because as part of their terms of employment (green scheme at least) they're not allowed to park within a certain distance of the HQ site. 2 miles or 30 minutes walk, if I remember correctly. Can you confirm that as an HR professional for Vodafone? We don't even know if the errant Parker's are Vodafone employees!
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Sep 26 2013, 11:28 AM
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We don't even know if the errant Parker's are Vodafone employees!They should be penned up and pelted with toms... cats or veg, whatever innit. Until an admission is made. ce
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