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Mr Brown
post Aug 13 2014, 05:57 PM
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Ok, I have no car these days; but do still drive and so try to keep up with the latest rules. I don't think if has yet become legal for drivers to park on pavements, even if they are only half on! Twice this week, I've nearly been run over by vehicles (a van and a taxi) bumping up onto the pavement then stopping. Little wonder the footpaths round here are breaking up. Here is a really good source of revenue, collecting fines from drivers who break this rule!
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post Aug 13 2014, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Aug 13 2014, 06:57 PM) *
Ok, I have no car these days; but do still drive and so try to keep up with the latest rules. I don't think if has yet become legal for drivers to park on pavements, even if they are only half on! Twice this week, I've nearly been run over by vehicles (a van and a taxi) bumping up onto the pavement then stopping. Little wonder the footpaths round here are breaking up. Here is a really good source of revenue, collecting fines from drivers who break this rule!





The simple reason is that the police/ traffic wardens are not interested in doing their job properly, which leaves the public free to park as they see fit.
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post Aug 13 2014, 06:45 PM
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I can understand it when the roads are very narrow (e.g. Berkeley Road area), otherwise traffic would never get through, but on wider roads there is no excuse or necessity for it. The old, narrow roads and their houses were built before there was much car ownership by more than the privileged few!
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:29 PM
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It's only the police who have the legal powers to enforce on footway obstruction and unfortunately it's not a priority issue for them. Until it becomes one of their KPIs or is included on some PowerPoint chart for everyone to see how well they're doing then it will always remain something that they'll shrug their shoulders over and say "You'll have to speak to your council" - ignoring the fact that it's their responsibility and the council can't legally do anything.
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 13 2014, 07:13 PM) *
The simple reason is that the police/ traffic wardens are not interested in doing their job properly, which leave the public free to park as they see fit.

The council's 'Green meanies' can only patrol on the roads where there are parking restrictions and can only enforce on those lengths of the road where there are yellow lines or bays. Even if there's a car parked fully on the pavement a few feet away from where yellow lines are there's nothing they can do.
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:36 PM
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:36 PM
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post Aug 14 2014, 08:05 AM
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There are many rules and regulations covering highway use that are flouted regularly every day with what seems total impunity.
After much futile highlighting and complaining I now accept that we just have to live with them, to "chill" and to "get over it".
Maybe it's just that I am getting older!! rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 14 2014, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 14 2014, 09:05 AM) *
There are many rules and regulations covering highway use that are flouted regularly every day with what seems total impunity.
After much futile highlighting and complaining I now accept that we just have to live with them, to "chill" and to "get over it".
Maybe it's just that I am getting older!! rolleyes.gif

That does seem to be a reasonable idea.
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post Aug 14 2014, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 14 2014, 09:22 AM) *
That does seem to be a reasonable idea.

Is that just for me or the OP also?? wink.gif
OK I suppose unless you are with a pushchair or in a wheelchair.......................ooops! there I go again!! tongue.gif
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post Aug 14 2014, 11:42 AM
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post Aug 14 2014, 11:53 AM
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Odd really! It seems everyone gets upset about 'militant cyclists' using pavements and I've even heard the odd whisper against the OAP carts...but cars and vans, oooh chill out everyone! Actually, ignorant drivers who think they should be able to park wherever they want and for nix are a growing nuisance! Still, presumably they are ok withy my little nephew who likes to bang things as he passes, and my studded coat helps when I have to squeeze past.


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post Aug 14 2014, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 14 2014, 12:53 PM) *
and my studded coat helps when I have to squeeze past.

Do you have one of those collars with spikes on as well? unsure.gif
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post Aug 14 2014, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 14 2014, 02:16 PM) *
Do you have one of those collars with spikes on as well? unsure.gif

Nah, just a riveted leather jerkin...No problem is there? Or do you precious motorists really think your wonderful vehicle is safe, even if it's left illegally and obstructing a footpath? I have a huge sympathy with the OP - we have a regular driver round here from a courier firm who always bounces up onto the pavement, totally needlessly. I think I'll do my public duty next time and give his firm full volume. If you have to park on the pavement, it's a pretty clear and obvious indication you shouldn't park there at all.


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post Aug 14 2014, 02:24 PM
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Even if people have a drive, they still seem to park on the pavement. Where my GFs mum lives in Sycamore Drive, you can't even walk along the footpath in some places.
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:44 AM
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I've seen several spaces (Newtown Road for example) where the spaces are marked out on the pavement, I don't believe parking on a pavement is actually an enforceable offence, but even if it is. The council can't enforce something they are encouraging!
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:52 AM
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So then, we spend £90 grand trying to get people to use other ways of getting into town but block up foot paths and cut bus subsidies! As they say 'you couldn't make it up',


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post Aug 15 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 15 2014, 06:44 AM) *
...I don't believe parking on a pavement is actually an enforceable offence...


I think the offence is 'causing an obstruction', or similar wording (I had an altercation some time ago with a van driver who had done just that). So parking on the pavement itself wouldn't be an offence. But if you were to block the pavement, or make it very hard for pedestrians to pass, then that would be.


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Andy Capp
post Aug 15 2014, 12:29 PM
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You're not allowed to drive on or partially on the pavement either, except to gain legal access to a property, or an emergency, but the old bill have to see you do it to be able to do anything about it (unless you own-up when asked about it). I understand.
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post Aug 15 2014, 01:09 PM
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Yes, the easiest offence to prosecute would be driving on a footpath. The Police saying they 'have to see someone driving' is actually one if their classic excuses for doing nothing as usual. The position of the vehicle is, of course, prime face evidence that it had been driven there and the registered owner is responsible for saying who had use of the vehicle if it wasn't them. One of those cases where the Court can be left to test the question. Of course, the vehicle owner could say that the vehicle was delivered by crane, if so, all they need do is produce the receipt....GMR is quite right; Police tardiness evident again.


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