Speed cameras in Woolhampton Options

[Biker1]

Some insurers now ask, aside from usual question on convictions, whether you have attended any speed awareness courses,
so I reckon they'll use that to justify a higher premium.

Surely the fact that one has attended one of these courses should REDUCE premiums??

[Turin Machine]

Cmon, this is an insurance company we're talking about.

[Andy Capp]

Sounds like you were to me.

nerc was replying to...

I'm not worried about the method of payment, only that there would be a time limit to pay. I could easily be on holiday if or when the letter turns up.

A painful cost is not a matter of not affording.

[Exhausted]

nerc was replying to... A painful cost is not a matter of not affording.

Probably right, but from what you were bleating on about, and we can, unlike a conversation down the pub, hope to draw a conclusion from what you are saying and perhaps what you are not saying. All of your posts were on about time to pay. That normally indicates that one is boracic. However, now you have let us know that you will be on a two month world cruise, we can drop the sympathy vote.

[nerc]

£60.00 will be bloody painful at this point in time!

Andy Crapp, sorry Capp

This what you stated and i responded in what was my thoughts.

FYI, the speed awareness courses are held at Mary Hare School and at present cost £80.00.

The course is only offered to minimal speeding over the limit ie: 34mph in a 30.

The courses are administered by an excellent company (Drive Tech) and usually lasts 4 hours.

Enjoy it.

[Turin Machine]

Better than points.

[Biker1]

Andy Crapp, sorry Capp

nerc in all his / her pleasantry again!!

[Simon Kirby]

Better than points.

I did the course, and appreciated not having the points, but I found it reasonably informative too.

[Andy Capp]

Probably right, but from what you were bleating on about, and we can, unlike a conversation down the pub, hope to draw a conclusion from what you are saying and perhaps what you are not saying. All of your posts were on about time to pay. That normally indicates that one is boracic. However, now you have let us know that you will be on a two month world cruise, we can drop the sympathy vote.

All I wanted to know is how long I had to pay, but I was given information I doubted. Whether I can afford it or not is immaterial, but I use the holiday scenario as an example, not my intention or situation. I'm not going on holiday and never once said I was.

What I do resent is some people's Schadenfreude and nerc it seems is no exception.

[nerc]

nerc in all his / her pleasantry again!!

Of course,

i just get fed up with some of the old? and very few posters on this site just complaining about the local council etc.

Some posters really need to get a life and live outside the box of the NWN forum.

[Andy Capp]

Andy Crapp, sorry Capp

This what you stated and i responded in what was my thoughts.

FYI, the speed awareness courses are held at Mary Hare School and at present cost £80.00.

The course is only offered to minimal speeding over the limit ie: 34mph in a 30.

The courses are administered by an excellent company (Drive Tech) and usually lasts 4 hours.

Enjoy it.

Boollox to that rip off.

3 points makes almost no difference to your premiums (or at least compared to the eighty odd knicker you get fleeced). A speed awareness is completely pointless and unhelpful. I have been driving along the A4 for 30 odd years without issue (and only one 'parking' accident when I was in my first year of driving, not hurting anyone in the process), but this time I was a little careless on an empty road in the early hours of the morning. I was going too fast and as is customary, I will get fined. That's that. All I wanted to know is how much I have to pay and when to this scabby Government.

[Andy Capp]

Of course,

i just get fed up with some of the old? and very few posters on this site just complaining about the local council etc.

Some posters really need to get a life and live outside the box of the NWN forum.

You 'attacked' me. I resent paying £60.00, but I acknowledged that it is due; it is my fault, no one else's. I just wanted information, not your ignorant sarcasm. Fining me £60 will do nothing to change my driving because in this instance I just made a mistake. I don't wilfully drive too fast past speed cameras.

[Biker1]

I did the course, and appreciated not having the points, but I found it reasonably informative too.

Yes, my son was caught doing 57 in a 50mph limit on a dual carriageway the mad, reckless, dangerous idiot!
He found the course more useful and informative than he anticipated with many handy tips on how not to get caught speeding!!

[Exhausted]

You 'attacked' me. I resent paying £60.00, but I acknowledged that it is due; it is my fault, no one else's. I just wanted information, not your ignorant sarcasm. Fining me £60 will do nothing to change my driving because in this instance I just made a mistake. I don't wilfully drive too fast past speed cameras.

Glad we've got that out of the way then.

It was a long time ago that I did the awareness thing and I had to go to Bracknell to do it. It saved me the points and I still have a clean licence but apart from the salutary lesson that I had been driving at a reckless 34mph in a road which had recently had the speed limit reduced, I found the course tedious and rather pointless. If you want to keep points off the licence, the only way to do it is to stick within the speed limit. That often is not easy though as spending 10% of your driving time looking at a speedo to make sure your speed hasn't crept up is, in my opinion, a danger in itself. That said, we do need to punish the aggressive speeders who blatantly break the set limits, especially on town and urban roads.

[motormad]

You still have to pay to go on the course and probably loose a half days pay in the bargain. The speed awareness is run by an independent group but it is not a cheap way out other than you don't get points which means you don't get a penalty from your insurance company.

I had an Isuzu light crewcab truck with bigger than normal wheels on it. I was pinged by the mobile camera in Monks Lane doing 30mph on my speedo but it was actually 34mph as I found to my cost. Whilst I still retained my clean licence, I did the half day and got a communal talking to with the other participants then had to sit in front of a screen and carry out stupid tasks. Interesting that the Indian lady sitting alongside me hardly spoke English and had never operated a keyboard and screen in her life. She passed the course though.

Please feel free to comment MM.

There is no way that a correctly reading speedometer with the correct size wheels and tyres would UNDER READ.
35mph indicated is usually about 31-32mph real speed.

I see no reason why people are getting arsey with AC... he's not complaining about it or whining about it happening, he's accepted responsibility... moan moan moan.

[Berkshirelad]

If you were flashed, and you wouldn't be unless you were sufficiently over the limit to be prosecuted, then the next stage is a Notice to Keeper, on which you must name the driver at the time. You have 28 days in which to respond to this or you will receive a Summons for "Failing to Provide" which will be heard in Court and normally 6 points and a couple of hundred £ fine.

Once they have received this, you will get an offer of Fixed Penalty (£60 and 3 points). You have a further 28 days to pay and surrender your licence for endorsement. You may be offered a Speed Awareness Course if you meet the guidelines, this costs more (£90 I think) but removes possibility of conviction & points. If you do not attned the course after choosing it, you will be prosecuted for speeding via a Magistrates' Court.

Some Police Forces combine the Notice to Keeper and FPN if the keeper was the driver. I don't know if TVP do

[blackdog]

If you were flashed, and you wouldn't be unless you were sufficiently over the limit to be prosecuted, ...

Assuming the film had not run out - have they gone digital yet?.

I was 'flashed' once and didn't hear anything about it.

[Exhausted]

There is no way that a correctly reading speedometer with the correct size wheels and tyres would UNDER READ. 35mph indicated is usually about 31-32mph real speed. I see no reason why people are getting arsey with AC... he's not complaining about it or whining about it happening, he's accepted responsibility... moan moan moan.

You obviously didn't read what I said. I had bigger than standard wheels and I think that you are incorrect about speedos under reading. Modern cars with new and correctly inflated tyres are usually spot on. Next time you pass a set of police speed markers, check your speedo. I did and mine, with the Isuzu, was under reading by 4mph. If you have anything other than standard wheels and tyres check it out. Bigger wheels and low profiles might cancel each other out however.

[Exhausted]

double post waiting for the forum to catch up

[Turin Machine]

Read this
http://www.speedview.co/forum/Thread-How-a...-factory-speedo