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Commissioner Stansfield on the make (take?), Misuse of taxpayer money via sham |
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May 17 2013, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ May 17 2013, 08:05 AM) Presumably Commissioner Stansfield is so impressed by his own performance that he spends a good deal of his precious time gazing at the sun shining from his own backside. I've only seen him in action - at WBC meetings - a couple of times but he came over, as his quote confirms, a supremely arrogant piece of work. He also seemed deeply unpleasant but I'm sure somebody loves him. Having also seen the man in action I have to agree with your assessment. As to your last statement, is he married.?
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May 18 2013, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 17 2013, 06:00 PM) Richard Benyon's 'it's a non-story' remark. If I was his press officer and bearing-in-mind the state of the nation's finances, let alone locally, I would have use more sympathetic language. Something like: 'we understand people's concern but we can assure you...' sounds a lot better than: 'it's a non-story'. I think the tax payer should be the one's to judge that! Agreed. I'm afraid it's just another symptom of the overweening arrogance of our current political leaders. They have a veneer of charm (even this is missing in Stansfield's case) their world view is, deep down, based on the idea that most of us are oiks and should be treated with contempt.
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May 19 2013, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ May 18 2013, 04:00 PM) Agreed. I'm afraid it's just another symptom of the overweening arrogance of our current political leaders. To that, I would include the behaviour of many who hold senior positions in our public services (e.g. BBC and local authorities). After yet another scandal where people have suffered, I am sick and tired of hearing "we will learn the lessons.." etc. We do not pay these people such huge salaries for them to be on a learning curve. They are meant to be the top people in their field, experienced and competent.
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May 19 2013, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (pbonnay @ May 19 2013, 05:42 PM) To that, I would include the behaviour of many who hold senior positions in our public services (e.g. BBC and local authorities). After yet another scandal where people have suffered, I am sick and tired of hearing "we will learn the lessons.." etc. We do not pay these people such huge salaries for them to be on a learning curve. They are meant to be the top people in their field, experienced and competent. While I do agree with you, not every scenario can be foreseen and if one is at the enviable position where one can know and can foresee everything then I hear there may be a space or two available in the godhood... People are people and mistakes will always be made. The test comes from learning from and not repeating them.
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May 19 2013, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (pbonnay @ May 19 2013, 05:42 PM) To that, I would include the behaviour of many who hold senior positions in our public services (e.g. BBC and local authorities). After yet another scandal where people have suffered, I am sick and tired of hearing "we will learn the lessons.." etc. We do not pay these people such huge salaries for them to be on a learning curve. They are meant to be the top people in their field, experienced and competent. They are..... at getting what they want from the system. Why do you think they want HS2.... so that the gravy train speeds their arrival at the trough? You should have realised by now that cuts only happen to us plebs not to those in a position to take advantage of their positions. Just like companies that make billions from Britain but pay very little tax......why because that is the way that politicians made it possible of course? Expenses scandal what expenses scandal? Move along nothing to see here!
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May 19 2013, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Roost @ May 19 2013, 06:30 PM) While I do agree with you, not every scenario can be foreseen and if one is at the enviable position where one can know and can foresee everything then I hear there may be a space or two available in the godhood...
People are people and mistakes will always be made. The test comes from learning from and not repeating them. In relation to "new" issues, such as those caused by the relentless march of technology, e.g. Internet-based social media, I take your point. But in instances such as those involving vulnerable youngsters being abused, I think the risks could have been foreseen. Indeed, we know that concerns were reported and yet the abuse went on for years.
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May 19 2013, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (pbonnay @ May 19 2013, 06:59 PM) In relation to "new" issues, such as those caused by the relentless march of technology, e.g. Internet-based social media, I take your point.
But in instances such as those involving vulnerable youngsters being abused, I think the risks could have been foreseen. Indeed, we know that concerns were reported and yet the abuse went on for years. Stansfeld defends poor performance:'POLICE and crime commissioner Anthony Stansfeld yesterday backed his Chief Constable, claiming other forces across the country had also failed victims of child sex gangs. Mr Stansfeld said he would not call on Sara Thornton to resign as child sex exploitation was a problem across the country.' The 43 reported Oxford offences OK then?Neither is the Oxon Council CEO, Joanne Simons on £200k falling on her sword. I see she even gets extra pay when she has to act as a returning officer; unbelievable.The fact that these 2 senior officials are female makes their unaccountability even more unacceptable, considering who the victims were over 6 years.
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May 20 2013, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (gel @ May 19 2013, 10:19 PM) Stansfeld defends poor performance: 'POLICE and crime commissioner Anthony Stansfeld yesterday backed his Chief Constable, claiming other forces across the country had also failed victims of child sex gangs. Mr Stansfeld said he would not call on Sara Thornton to resign as child sex exploitation was a problem across the country.' The 43 reported Oxford offences OK then? Neither is the Oxon Council CEO, Joanne Simons on £200k falling on her sword. I see she even gets extra pay when she has to act as a returning officer; unbelievable. The fact that these 2 senior officials are female makes their unaccountability even more unacceptable, considering who the victims were over 6 years. Quite. I heard a spokesman for the NSPCC on the radio last week. Unbelievably, he seemed to be more worried about being politically correct than tackling these paedophile gangs. I think our agencies have completely failed here and those in senior positions should be properly held to account.
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