Just for Richard Options

[NWNREADER]

QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 25 2011, 09:29 AM)
Why should they have the press or the public at their meetings? It's a retailers' association not a public body.

Well? Why should they?

"I wasn't a member of the party until October last year."

When you join a party you attach to it's history - good and not so good. Your use of this phrase sounds like slopey shoulders and does nothing to help people understand where you stand (other than a loyal member apart from the nasty bits)

And I still don't feel you have given a valid reason for not submitting the petition. Those who signed up may feel let down.

Richard, me old fruit,
I realise you are a busy chap, but as you are now working mega-hours could you fit in a reply?

[Richard Garvie]

QUOTE (blackdog @ Oct 25 2011, 09:29 AM)
Why should they have the press or the public at their meetings? It's a retailers' association not a public body.

Well? Why should they?

"I wasn't a member of the party until October last year."

When you join a party you attach to it's history - good and not so good. Your use of this phrase sounds like slopey shoulders and does nothing to help people understand where you stand (other than a loyal member apart from the nasty bits)

And I still don't feel you have given a valid reason for not submitting the petition. Those who signed up may feel let down.

Richard, me old fruit,
I realise you are a busy chap, but as you are now working mega-hours could you fit in a reply?

The NRA has always been transparent, why change it? t gives them credibility, at present they wouldn't dare discuss sanctions against an individual or take votes on people for a start.

As for the petition, I have no update as to when it will go in. Some people may feel let down if it doesn't go in now, and if that's the case I can only apologise to them if it doesn't go in. What I will say is that if it is not submitted, we will need to carry out a seperate petition at a later stage.

[blackdog]

What I will say is that if it is not submitted, we will need to carry out a seperate petition at a later stage.

So submit it then!

[NWNREADER]

Ahem...

While you reveal some interesting failings you have not set out why the petition was not submitted in time for September.

Sounds like you admit that failing to submit it renders the existing petition unusable.

[user23]

Ahem...

While you reveal some interesting failings you have not set out why the petition was not submitted in time for September.

Sounds like you admit that failing to submit it renders the existing petition unusable.

I suspect it didn't have the required number of signatures.

Turns out Newbury Labour hasn't been working on the NRA constitution either, as previously claimed.

[Richard Garvie]

I suspect it didn't have the required number of signatures.

Turns out Newbury Labour hasn't been working on the NRA constitution either, as previously claimed.

I already clarified that abuser, it was our RESPONSE to the NRA constitution. You already know this.

[Cognosco]

I suspect it didn't have the required number of signatures.

Turns out Newbury Labour hasn't been working on the NRA constitution either, as previously claimed.

Everything has had to be put on hold to deal with the national scandal of WBC giving every asset that Newbury had to SLI for a pound and a very large wedge of cash as far into the future as can been seen. Come on keep up.

[Richard Garvie]

No Cognosco, they are not linked. But interesting that whenever the council go belly up on something, everyone starts trying to have a pop at me again!!!

[user23]

I already clarified that abuser, it was our RESPONSE to the NRA constitution. You already know this.

Why did you need to produce a RESPONSE to the NRA constitution, something that wasn't in your manifesto, over something that was, the petition?

[Richard Garvie]

Why did you need to produce a RESPONSE to the NRA constitution, something that wasn't in your manifesto, over something that was, the petition?

Because the NRA meetings are something that already happen.

[NWNREADER]

No Cognosco, they are not linked. But interesting that whenever the council go belly up on something, everyone starts trying to have a pop at me again!!!

Well it is no easier to get an answer out of you than the council, for sure.......

Ahem...

While you reveal some interesting failings you have not set out why the petition was not submitted in time for September.

Sounds like you admit that failing to submit it renders the existing petition unusable.

[Richard Garvie]

Already answered it. Read the thread.

[user23]

So submit it then!

Not enough signatures, apparently.

[NWNREADER]

Already answered it. Read the thread.

I said I did not find your answer adequate. You have not given a reason other than 'too busy' for not submitting. That answer is not acceptable, and needs further explanation. Will you be as public about not submitting as you were when you were going to?

How many signatures did you gather, please?

Do you agree failing to submit, especially without explanation, is unacceptable?

Do you agree delaying the submission renders the petition invalid?

As the actual submission process is very straightforward, can you please explain why the petition was not submitted ready for September?

[user23]

Having asked for a new thread to be started about this, Richard now seems to be avoiding questions on the subject.

[Richard Garvie]

Having asked for a new thread to be started about this, Richard now seems to be avoiding questions on the subject.

Some of us give up our time to attend community meetings. I'm sorry I can't have a team of people on here all day every day trying to defend me like the council do.

[Andy Capp]

Some of us give up our time to attend community meetings. I'm sorry I can't have a team of people on here all day every day trying to defend me like the council do.

Do you have the required amount of signatures? Would you give a date for when you will reply, in full, the questions asked by NWNREADER?

[Richard Garvie]

I said I did not find your answer adequate. You have not given a reason other than 'too busy' for not submitting. That answer is not acceptable, and needs further explanation. Will you be as public about not submitting as you were when you were going to?

How many signatures did you gather, please?

Do you agree failing to submit, especially without explanation, is unacceptable?

Do you agree delaying the submission renders the petition invalid?

As the actual submission process is very straightforward, can you please explain why the petition was not submitted ready for September?

More than enough.

I've explained why it's not been submitted. It will go in once I have consulted the other parties to get their opinion.

Not at all, but there are guidelines that have to be adhered too.

It wasn't ready to be submitted in September, if you submit it without doing the proper diligence there is a chance that if the council rule out some signatures, you may not have enough to force the referendum. I've already told you that some things were more important. The mayor issue is something we are pushing because West Berkshire were not given the choice. The council ruled it out despite support from various organisations and respondants in the consultations, but all of those responses were ruled out because the Tories decided "that it wasn't a valid response".Let's not forget why we are suggesting the referendum in the first place, it's because the Tories fudged the consultation. But there is no point rushing something and then failing, it's always better to get it right first time (something the current council fail to do most often).

[NWNREADER]

Some of us give up our time to attend community meetings. I'm sorry I can't have a team of people on here all day every day trying to defend me like the council do.

Well, you demand answers - often with good grounds - so you must expect to deliver in the same vein.

Team of people defending WBC? Names?

[Richard Garvie]

Well, you demand answers - often with good grounds - so you must expect to deliver in the same vein.

Team of people defending WBC? Names?

What I mean is that I have a life too, I can't be on here 24 / 7. As soon as I don't post for what must be a few hours, I'm accused of not answering questions. I always try to answer every question if it's possible to do so. The reason I get annoyed at Phil is because he very rarely answers any question posed to him.