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> 25 years ago a sad day that shocked the UK, Michael Ryan carriied out mass murder nearby
Strafin
post Aug 23 2012, 09:43 AM
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Totally agree, the jokes could be deemed as insensitive, but they are not jokes about the event or the victims or the event itself.
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post Aug 23 2012, 12:53 PM
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You are sadly correct Andy. From my perspective, it's not even sensitivity to incidents 'like' Hungerford but sensitivity to the incident of Hungerford itself.


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post Aug 23 2012, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 23 2012, 10:43 AM) *
they are not jokes about the event or the victims or the event itself.

Precisely.
We had moved on from the OP subject and were tackling the idiosyncrasies of American gun law.
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 20 2012, 03:46 PM) *
No-one is saying they are "upset" by the picture or thread if you read. Just that they do not see the need for this.
None of the posters here "needs treatment" just a little respect.
Thanks.


I'm grateful for the picture. I have no idea what happened, and it was 25 years ago... you can't change the past.
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post Aug 23 2012, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Aug 23 2012, 03:16 PM) *
I have no idea what happened,

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No, forget that, you don't have to be even that! ohmy.gif
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post Aug 23 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Roost @ Aug 20 2012, 02:29 PM) *
As well as the sensitivity surrounding this there is another consideration.

People are still trying to draw a line under this. As was said at the memorial 5 years ago, it is time to try and move on and let the people of Hungerford deal with it themselves (which i think may be one of the reasons for the lack if NWN coverage).

Peoples responses on here demonstrate how raw it still is for some of us which is not helped by having the post and picture here.

To a degree I do agree with what you say about people reading a thread with this title but the difference is that this is in a forum highly likely to be used by people from Hungerford as part of their everyday lives whilst you would have to actively search for the BBC story.

Its not about trying to suppress free speech or debate, purely asking for a little consideration from reasonable people.



But by the same token, you have to actively click on this thread, and as previously mentioned the title clearly explains what it is about. Do not click on if trying to move on.
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post Aug 23 2012, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Aug 23 2012, 03:16 PM) *
I'm grateful for the picture. I have no idea what happened, and it was 25 years ago... you can't change the past.



Why do you have no idea what happened?


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post Aug 23 2012, 09:14 PM
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Maybe less than 30 years of age, or only recently moved to the area?
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post Aug 23 2012, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Aug 23 2012, 10:14 PM) *
Maybe less than 30 years of age, or only recently moved to the area?


Either one of those 'reasons' are very weak.
Perhaps a little research would be in order before making a contribution.


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post Aug 23 2012, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Rowley Birkin @ Aug 21 2012, 07:58 AM) *
why would anyone want to be reminded of this?

For the same reason, but on a much MUCH MUCH larger scale, that people want to remember The Holocaust and remind others...

Y'know they don't just have a single thumbnail picture of a smouldering building when they post "70 years ago a sad day that shocked the world" threads....... Far more emotive pictures to post.... They even make Oscar winning films about it, have relatively regular TV documentaries (War of the Worlds et al) and teach about it at schools....

And people don't generally get their knickers in quite the same sort of twists that some of the posters on here seem to do.... Are we just a teensy weensy bit over-sensitive and wanting to keep it brushed under the carpet??
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post Aug 24 2012, 06:42 AM
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Everyone has their own way of dealing with crises - personal, community, whatever. For that individual, their way is right. Others may point out an alternative standpoint/way of dealing, but the individual can choose which way to go.
A hurt individual cannot demand others feel the way they do, a comfortable individual has to allow another to still hurt.

The event was awful, not the way people deal with their emotions afterwards.
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post Aug 24 2012, 08:09 AM
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I was in the car with my Mum and drove through Hungerford on the day but was very little, 4 I think. When the documentary came out lots of people were unhappy with it, however despite having been there I did not realise the scale of the event until I had seen the film. I think it is difficult for people, but it will continue to be a talking point for years to come.
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post Aug 24 2012, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 24 2012, 09:09 AM) *
I was in the car with my Mum and drove through Hungerford on the day but was very little, 4 I think.


I thought you were now 33?
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 23 2012, 11:15 PM) *
Either one of those 'reasons' are very weak.
Perhaps a little research would be in order before making a contribution.


All he was saying was that he was not aware of this. He does not need to do research to be able to post that comment. If he was saying something subjective about that day without having done research, then yes, he should have done some internet research. With previous posters asking why we need to bring this up, his posts answers that- we were not all aware!
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post Aug 24 2012, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (Newbelly @ Aug 24 2012, 10:16 AM) *
I thought you were now 33?

I am, and no better at math than I was then! I must have been 8.
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post Aug 25 2012, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 24 2012, 04:56 PM) *
I am, and no better at math than I was then! I must have been 8.

It's MATHS - plural!
Stop going all American on me! tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2012, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 25 2012, 08:15 AM) *
It's MATHS - plural! Stop going all American on me! tongue.gif

You are right about it being American, but 'math' as a word in print is older than 'maths'. Also, 'maths' (short for mathematics) is a collective noun; not a plural. wink.gif
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post Aug 25 2012, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 25 2012, 10:26 AM) *
You are right about it being American, but 'math' as a word in print is older than 'maths'. Also, 'maths' (short for mathematics) is a collective noun; not a plural. wink.gif



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post Aug 25 2012, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Aug 25 2012, 10:49 AM) *

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post Aug 25 2012, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 25 2012, 08:15 AM) *
It's MATHS - plural!
Stop going all American on me! tongue.gif

OK! I even said tom-ay-to the other day, I need to have a word with myself!
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