Charity "events", P*ss off. Options

[motormad]

People who do things like

"I'm going Skydiving for <charity>" or "I'm going to go to Kilimanjaro and climb it for <charity>" and then thrust a form in your face asking you to give money to their cause.

I don't like donating to charity. Because they have plenty of money. They aren't shy. I've worked with enough charities in my line of work to know this.

I had a guy at work yesterday doing a sky drive. And I said, I tell you what, I will DOUBLE the TOTAL donations for you to NOT do the Skydive, and just donate the money to charity.
So if he got sponsored £500 to do the Skydrive I would give him £1000 to donate to his chosen charity, to NOT do the Skydive.

He wasn't interested, he wanted to do the Skydive.
So it's not about raising money for your charity, it's about having a giggle and pretending to do something nice.

Jog on.

[Strafin]

There are no selfless acts. If people are honest about though, I don't mind. It's the pretence.

[Simon Kirby]

There are no selfless acts.

I don't believe that. I think you can find selflessness. But I do agree entirely with motormad and I find the whole climbing-kilimanjaro-for-charity thing to be tiresomely, conspicuously affluent and middle-class - though I am aware of my bitterness and sour grapes...

[Andy Capp]

Selfless from the conscious maybe, but possibly not from the subconscious. If a friend asks me for a fiver to sponsor their easy to achieve task I wouldn't have any issue with that. If the rich were more philanthropic, perhaps it wouldn't all be necessary, but at the end of the day, it is rarely for a bad cause.

[Simon Kirby]

I spent a bit of time on Orkney some years ago and there are numerous counts of islanders going out in the teeth of a gale to help shipwrecked sailors in nothing more than a rowing boat. You could argue that for a seafaring community there is an unavoidable obligation to risk you skin for someone you don't know in case you're ever in the predicament yourself and needing rescue, but I think that over-analyses it. I think it's a selfless recognition in the face of the inevitable power of the sea that you owe your fellow man the effort, even if that effort costs you your life. I think that's part of all of us, just some more than others.

[Turin Machine]

In my decidedly younger days I used to do those overnight twenty mile walks. For me it was torture, but I helped raise money for worthwhile causes. Still got the blisters!

[spartacus]

If the people getting those blisters realised just how little of their sponsorship money made it through the maze of admin charges and commissions before finally ending up at their 'good cause' there would be a hell of a lot fewer people doing those 20 mile overnight walks and fewer pieces of paper and sponsorship forms being thrust under your nose to sign. Over inflated salaries of the charity full time staff can be eye-watering and I'm very careful about where my money goes as that sort of thing grips my ****...

[je suis Charlie]

Aye lad, charity begins at home, dont do owt for nowt less its for thy sen

[Andy Capp]

If the people getting those blisters realised just how little of their sponsorship money made it through the maze of admin charges and commissions before finally ending up at their 'good cause' there would be a hell of a lot fewer people doing those 20 mile overnight walks and fewer pieces of paper and sponsorship forms being thrust under your nose to sign. Over inflated salaries of the charity full time staff can be eye-watering and I'm very careful about where my money goes as that sort of thing grips my ****...

The vast majority of charities ~70% of money raised goes to the beneficiaries.

[On the edge]

The vast majority of charities ~70% of money raised goes to the beneficiaries.

[Andy Capp]

What is funny?

[On the edge]

What is funny?

Your assertion about charities! Having spent the day with a couple of big ones, my only other comment would be 'I wish'.

[Andy Capp]

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[Biker1]

Unfortunately (for many) charities are having a bad press at the moment, what with the "cold calling" issues, executive pay, and the Kids Company scandal.
I think, until that, many, including me, were not aware that large amounts of taxpayer's money was being given to these organisations.

[On the edge]

So your way to deal with ignorance is to laugh at people? However, I fail to see how your anecdotal example of a tiny sample gives you the right to do so. Motormad has an equally childish word for people who behave like that.

Perhaps (rather than laugh) you might enlighten us with your knowledge and tell us who these charities are and what their benefits to recipient percentage is?

I'm not laughing, in fact I'm extremely angry. You've been sneering and simply repeating tired old statements which sadly certain individuals accept as fact. Classic single issue political tactics. The many big charities have a vested interest in keeping them going at no matter what cost. It's very easy to publish a sentimental picture to whip up public emotion and then keep it going by piling in 'facts' carelessly culled from various places and wholly ungrounded. I'm not just concerned about the latest debacles, which frankly are a continuation of the commercial miss selling scandals. I am more concerned about the very deep seated issues caused by the commercialisation of many charities that is essentially misleading and in effect mistreating the public. No, I'm not going to tell you who I'm working with. But, before you do your usual, and throw your toys about when anyone dares challenge one of your concrete facts, it's worth checking. 'Averages' are never a true reflection.

[Andy Capp]

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[motormad]

Motormad has an equally childish word for people who behave like that.

is it "being a joffa"?

if not there's a whole list i can reem off!!


I would get WEEKLY calls from "go-gen" on behalf of NSPCC.

i looked up Go-Gen.

interesting reading.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Go+Gen&am...817197355768520

http://www.fundraising.co.uk/2015/07/23/go...ss-of-485-jobs/

[Andy Capp]

is it "being a joffa"?

if not there's a whole list i can reem off!!


I would get WEEKLY calls from "go-gen" on behalf of NSPCC.

i looked up Go-Gen.

interesting reading.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Go+Gen&am...817197355768520

http://www.fundraising.co.uk/2015/07/23/go...ss-of-485-jobs/

Joffa is a favourite of mine!

[On the edge]

In other words you are asserting unsubstantiated cobblers yourself, or assertions as you put it.

I don't mind being challenged, but I resent being laughed at when people like you 'laugh' yet are unable to offer any concrete data themselves. If you can't or wont publish the facts, then your opinion is no-more valid then mine, except (unlike you) I can at least draw on some sources.


Unlike you, I don't think I am clever, nor do I believe I have all the answers, but I like to challenge views that I see as misguided, invalid, or questionable, and you are no exception. If I am wrong, then show me. Or if my sources are wrong, then prove it. I am happy to be enlightened.

Thank fk your election attempt was a failure, it would have just been more of the same horse sht.

Thank you kind Sir. I was beginning to miss your usual personal responses to challenge. Welcome back.

[Andy Capp]

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