Burglar killed, Homeowner released without charge Options

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Interesting and tragic case.

I fully sympathise with the home owner but has this not now set a precedent?

If you are being burgled violently do you have the right to protect you and your family by any means necessary?

Hopefully this makes burglars think twice. Though I doubt it as most have drug issues.

[Andy Capp]

I thought stop and search still existed? What was stopped was stop and search because they is black, in other words, it had to be for reasons other than the colour of their skin,

[On the edge]

I thought stop and search still existed? What was stopped was stop and search because they is black, in other words, it had to be for reasons other than the colour of their skin,

Exactly; the Met decided not to use these powers generally after formal enquiries revealed that they were abusing their authority usually in the way you describe.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Exactly; the Met decided not to use these powers generally after formal enquiries revealed that they were abusing their authority usually in the way you describe.

They were using profiling. If you are young and black in London you are more likely to carry a knife or be a victim of a knife attack than white or asian youngsters. That's just an unfortunate fact. Abandoning profiling is a mistake. Its uncomfortable but the other choice is lots more dead black teenagers. You can't have it both ways.

[On the edge]

They were using profiling. If you are young and black in London you are more likely to carry a knife or be a victim of a knife attack than white or asian youngsters. That's just an unfortunate fact. Abandoning profiling is a mistake. Its uncomfortable but the other choice is lots more dead black teenagers. You can't have it both ways.

Ah yes, of course.

Then, the lads who did for Stephen Lawrence weren't black were they?

No, you can't have it both ways, but you can do your job properly.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Ah yes, of course.

Then, the lads who did for Stephen Lawrence weren't black were they?

No, you can't have it both ways, but you can do your job properly.

The Stephen Lawrence case was awful and they are WHITE scum, but this is the exception to the rule, if you look at pictures of fatalities this year.

[On the edge]

The Stephen Lawrence case was awful and they are WHITE scum, but this is the exception to the rule, if you look at pictures of fatalities this year.

It's quite a big exception if you take a period of time and do a proper analysis.

It's actually quite easy to properly justify 'shop and search' without using preset predudice and, ironically, secure a better clear up rate.

I'm sure you can see that not all black man is walking through an areas of high crime are criminals anymore than is the expectation that all lorry drivers are using a mobile phone whilst driving.

[newres]

It's quite a big exception if you take a period of time and do a proper analysis.

It's actually quite easy to properly justify 'shop and search' without using preset predudice and, ironically, secure a better clear up rate.

I'm sure you can see that not all black man is walking through an areas of high crime are criminals anymore than is the expectation that all lorry drivers are using a mobile phone whilst driving.

or all black men in BMWs are pimps or drug dealers. It’s not profiling, it’s prefudice and the average policeman on the beat isn’t too bright either although I think that’s changing.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

or all black men in BMWs are pimps or drug dealers. It’s not profiling, it’s prefudice and the average policeman on the beat isn’t too bright either although I think that’s changing.

I get what you are saying but I'd also suggest anyone in a 40k+ new beemer who doesn't have a "day job" should be looked into. Proof of earnings etc.

[newres]

I get what you are saying but I'd also suggest anyone in a 40k+ new beemer who doesn't have a "day job" should be looked into. Proof of earnings etc.

So how on earth would a policeman know that the person didn’t have a day job?

[SirWilliam]

So how on earth would a policeman know that the person didn’t have a day job?

Maybe he could ask?

[Cognosco]

Maybe he could ask?

Well he could be the same as a few that post on here. I am a high powered business person with a large yacht and this high powered Range Rover officer. I employ numerous workers and care for them properly.
Oh sorry to have bothered you then Sir please excuse me I will go and hassle some proper criminals then!