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post Aug 21 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Aug 21 2009, 08:59 AM) *
Sorry to disappoint but it does not happen like that, you must have been watching the The Bill to much and got confused between fiction and real live.

What ever peoples opinion of the police the majority of you that have commented on here genrally have not got a clue. That is evident by the things that are said. Neither are you actually interested to know. Oh but then how can I be so silly as to forget that the armchair police force are the most higly trained, most educated on the law and generally all round great people who get it right everytime.....................


Sorry ossy, just having a bit of fun, no offense meant.

I have a lot of respect for the police, my uncle was a copper before he passed away.

PS I was going to add a disclaimer that it was a light hearted post not to be taken seriously, but didn't think anyone would take it as such.
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 21 2009, 04:30 PM) *
So we'd be better off cancelling funding for ANPR, cameras, telephone lines and computers and just have them sit at the side of road stopping people in case they admit to a murder?? Peter Sutcliffe was caught in a random stop, but how many cars are stopped that throw up nothing for each criminal caught, I'm willing to bet hundreds. Also if the police were doing their job effectivley, he would have been locked up and not driving round killing prostitutes.


The circumstances of Peter Sutcliffe's arrest are not quite as you say - he was engaging in sexual activity with a known prostitute in Sheffield, his car was parked nearby. The vehicle was checked by two 'beat bobbies' on routine patrol and was found to be carrying false plates. Sutcliffe was spoken to and arrested for that offence. Before his arrest he was allowed to have a 'comfort break' behind a wall. The day after his arrest a knife, hammer and rope was found when the area was subject to a police search. He had discarded these during his 'comfort break'. He admitted to being the ripper shortly after.

I grant you that there were many problems with the investigation and that this caused delays, but you must remember that this case was prior to routine, cross border police co-operation in such cases. Indeed this case was the catalyst for such systems being put in place. This case was run on a card system (if you saw this system now you would not believe that anyone was ever caught for anything!!!)

So the police at the time were doing their job as effectively as posible given the 'technology' at hand, you cannot compare modern policing and investigative techniques to those of the late 70's early 80's.
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:38 PM
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Well someone else made the comparison to put the police into a positive light (which you haven't mentioned), was merely pointing out the other side of the coin.
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (ossy1 @ Aug 21 2009, 04:59 PM) *
Sorry to disappoint but it does not happen like that, you must have been watching the The Bill to much and got confused between fiction and real live.

What ever peoples opinion of the police the majority of you that have commented on here genrally have not got a clue. That is evident by the things that are said. Neither are you actually interested to know. Oh but then how can I be so silly as to forget that the armchair police force are the most higly trained, most educated on the law and generally all round great people who get it right everytime.....................

There's that upbeat and positive police attitude shining through again....
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:58 PM
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post Aug 21 2009, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 21 2009, 06:39 PM) *
There's that upbeat and positive police attitude shining through again....



The police service has an excellent sense of humour, it has to to be able to deal with arduous and sometimes downright dangerous working conditions (which many do not appreciate), and therefore I am sure this comment will be taken in a humourous way, as I am sure it was meant that way
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post Aug 21 2009, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 21 2009, 06:38 PM) *
Well someone else made the comparison to put the police into a positive light (which you haven't mentioned), was merely pointing out the other side of the coin.



I appreciate you pointing out the other side of the coin but it would be nice if it were just a teeny bit accurate.......
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post Aug 21 2009, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 21 2009, 07:01 PM) *
The police service has an excellent sense of humour, it has to to be able to deal with arduous and sometimes downright dangerous working conditions (which many do not appreciate), and therefore I am sure this comment will be taken in a humourous way, as I am sure it was meant that way



Here here!!!! And did you know that you can go along as a civilian observer with a local police patrol and se for yourselves exactly what happens on a standard shift......I expect that this would change many a comment and attitude to the police from many forum users
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post Aug 21 2009, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (Anon2 @ Aug 21 2009, 07:09 PM) *
And did you know that you can go along as a civilian observer with a local police patrol and se for yourselves exactly what happens on a standard shift

Not something that's generally known, I imagine, otherwise you'd be complaining about the queues outside the police station asking for a ride. smile.gif
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post Aug 21 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 21 2009, 08:12 PM) *
Not something that's generally known, I imagine, otherwise you'd be complaining about the queues outside the police station asking for a ride. smile.gif



Well that would be a sight to see!!!! But if some did do this it would put them at the heart of the matter. Then let's see what they have to say about the police.......
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post Aug 21 2009, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 21 2009, 07:01 PM) *
The police service has an excellent sense of humour, it has to to be able to deal with arduous and sometimes downright dangerous working conditions (which many do not appreciate), and therefore I am sure this comment will be taken in a humourous way, as I am sure it was meant that way

It's funny, reading back trough this thread, every time the officers are referred to negativley they are considered to be completely sepaerate from the the rest of the force and not allowed to be considered representive. Yet when a positive comment is made, it is used to refer to the entire force and is considered inclusive of all members and elements of it, including the two that have been mentioned within the openeing story on here. Just an observation.
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post Aug 22 2009, 12:45 PM
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Just found this article written last year with ref to a night on patrol with some bobbies (video is quite interesting too)

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...?articleID=8412

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