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Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 7 2017, 10:54 AM

Anyone read the header in the Newbury this week? I think Greenham would be better off without a council!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/20269/damning-report-into-handling-of-control-tower-project.html

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 7 2017, 07:14 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 7 2017, 10:54 AM) *
Anyone read the header in the Newbury this week? I think Greenham would be better off without a council!


That applies to Newbury Town as well? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 7 2017, 10:40 PM

Brexit!

Posted by: On the edge Jan 8 2017, 08:33 AM

Well, the people of Greenham had an opportunity to make their feelings known at a very recent by election. They voted for the staus quo and this, together with the financial consequences were hardly a secret. That's what they wanted, that's what they'll get.

Posted by: JeffG Jan 8 2017, 11:35 AM

Whatever this might be about - any chance of a link? Looked and couldn't find it.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 8 2017, 02:31 PM

It was on front of this week's print edition of NWN - digital version goes on line Monday.

In essence, formal report says Greenham Parish Council's Control Tower Restoration Project a complete shambles, broke the usual Local Authority rules and is massively over budget. A public works board loan (or rather mortgage) will put Council heavily in hock for years to come. Parish Council response simply, oh dear, we'll try harder.

If you don't live in Greenham, don't worry, if you do, you can well afford it.



Posted by: JeffG Jan 8 2017, 04:23 PM

Thanks for that. I don't do hard copy news these days.

QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 8 2017, 02:31 PM) *
If you don't live in Greenham, don't worry, if you do, you can well afford it.

I thought Greenham was places like Pigeon's Farm and The Nightingales.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 8 2017, 04:58 PM

QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 8 2017, 04:23 PM) *
Thanks for that. I don't do hard copy news these days.


I thought Greenham was places like Pigeon's Farm and The Nightingales.


Yes, it is, but Councillors always claim to be acting on behalf of their constituents so must know their ability and willingness to pay. That's what got confirmed in their very recent by election where candidates from the sponsoring party won.

Arguably, it's good really, because it clearly demonstrates that even the less well heeled parts of West Berkshire are actually quite well off.

Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 8 2017, 06:36 PM

The story was of complete incompetence.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 8 2017, 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 8 2017, 06:36 PM) *
The story was of complete incompetence.


Yes indeed, from experience, I think the following will now happen:-

























Posted by: je suis Charlie Jan 9 2017, 08:31 AM

700k? For a vanity project that no-one wants or will use? God give me strength!

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 9 2017, 09:23 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 9 2017, 08:31 AM) *
700k? For a vanity project that no-one wants or will use? God give me strength!


Well Greenham parishioners have been deafly silent as far as I am aware so they must want it and the debt? rolleyes.gif

That's the outcome when apathy strikes rolleyes.gif

But Newbury Town parishioners need to be on more alert as some of those allegedly responsible for the debacle are now their Councillors too! cool.gif

Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 9 2017, 09:54 AM

I know that by and large most councils do a difficult and complex job but, surely there must be better ways to spend almost 3/4's of a million pounds? Its a bit like a failing company deciding to buy a new yacht. Bad decision.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 9 2017, 10:17 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 9 2017, 09:54 AM) *
I know that by and large most councils do a difficult and complex job but, surely there must be better ways to spend almost 3/4's of a million pounds? Its a bit like a failing company deciding to buy a new yacht. Bad decision.


Well, we all make mistakes and anyway,who is going to tell them? The last Councillor round here who dared say anything about waste and incompetence was run out of town. We still just sit back and vote them back into office. Bad decision.

Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 9 2017, 11:25 AM

And,at the same time WBC announced a 680k overspend, irony, gotta love it.

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 9 2017, 03:51 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 9 2017, 11:25 AM) *
And,at the same time WBC announced a 680k overspend, irony, gotta love it.


As the now famous saying goes "Time to drain the swamp"? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 9 2017, 06:39 PM

For all you free loaders, here's the horror story: http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/20269/damning-report-into-handling-of-control-tower-project.html

Posted by: On the edge Jan 9 2017, 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 9 2017, 06:39 PM) *
For all you free loaders, here's the horror story: http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/20269/damning-report-into-handling-of-control-tower-project.html


Love the Council's response; utterly bizzare.

Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 9 2017, 10:39 PM

Its just a bit sad when people can just "have a good idea' and go on to spank 700k up against a wall on something that isn't wanted.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 10 2017, 12:00 PM

In order to salvage something would it not be worth getting rid of the District Auditor? Or is that yet just another sinecure role, like the WBC standards committee. Not much point paying for a blind, mute watchdogs.

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 10 2017, 01:54 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 10 2017, 12:00 PM) *
In order to salvage something would it not be worth getting rid of the District Auditor? Or is that yet just another sinecure role, like the WBC standards committee. Not much point paying for a blind, mute watchdogs.


Blind mute watchdogs that are from the same cosy little club of those they are supposedly auditing/regulating? cool.gif

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 13 2017, 12:59 PM

QUOTE (Cognosco @ Jan 10 2017, 01:54 PM) *
Blind mute watchdogs that are from the same cosy little club of those they are supposedly auditing/regulating? cool.gif


I see Swift Half has been elected Chairman of Greenham Parish and has stated :

"Taking the chair Mr Swift-Hook said he was confident that the council would make “good” decisions going forward."

I suppose their is always the chance that he may be able to make a good decision after all his time of making bad ones over the years? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Berkshirelad Jan 13 2017, 01:36 PM

Well the law of averages staes that he must get one right sooner or later (probably later)

Posted by: Berkshirelad Jan 13 2017, 01:36 PM

Well the law of averages staes that he must get one right sooner or later (probably later)

Posted by: On the edge Jan 13 2017, 03:27 PM

Nonetheless, the people have spoken!


Posted by: Simon Kirby Jan 13 2017, 07:42 PM

And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer.

Posted by: user23 Jan 13 2017, 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jan 13 2017, 07:42 PM) *
And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer.
There's always Thatcham.

Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 13 2017, 09:34 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 13 2017, 07:59 PM) *
There's always Thatcham.

I've got plans for Thatcham, mine, mine mine!

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 14 2017, 09:57 AM

QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 13 2017, 07:59 PM) *
There's always Thatcham.


Why do yo want Thatcham taxpayers precept wasted as well as Newburys and Greenhams? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dannyboy Jan 14 2017, 04:00 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jan 13 2017, 07:42 PM) *
And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer.



Ah Hans Gruber....

Posted by: user23 Jan 15 2017, 09:39 AM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 13 2017, 09:34 PM) *
I've got plans for Thatcham, mine, mine mine!
Fracking?

Posted by: Turin Machine Jan 15 2017, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 15 2017, 09:39 AM) *
Fracking?

Language!! laugh.gif

Posted by: On the edge Jan 15 2017, 11:40 AM

QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 15 2017, 09:39 AM) *
Fracking?


laugh.gif
Brilliant! you are on top form User; change of medication?

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 15 2017, 01:18 PM

QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 15 2017, 09:39 AM) *
Fracking?


Fracking West Berkshire Council? I think you may have misheard User? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: On the edge Jan 15 2017, 09:42 PM

One point which comes across in the report is that the working group seemed to ride roughshod over any even minor challenges, demonstrating behaviours that could be construed as bullying! Rather odd that the LibDems haven't censured anyone yet!

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 16 2017, 07:53 AM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 15 2017, 09:42 PM) *
One point which comes across in the report is that the working group seemed to ride roughshod over any even minor challenges, demonstrating behaviours that could be construed as bullying! Rather odd that the LibDems haven't censured anyone yet!


It's not bullying if carried out by a member of the club of course! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jan 19 2017, 06:17 PM

Just had a look t the Control Tower report - it's http://www.greenham.gov.uk/Greenham%20Parish%20Council%20-%20Control%20Tower%20Final%20Report%2026%20January%202016%20.pdf if you haven't seen it.

It's quite miserable reading, but the thing that jumped out at me was that it was published January 2016 and it would seem as though the council have sat on it for a year.

I see from http://www.greenham.gov.uk/ that another councillor has abandoned ship too.

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 19 2017, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jan 19 2017, 06:17 PM) *
Just had a look t the Control Tower report - it's http://www.greenham.gov.uk/Greenham%20Parish%20Council%20-%20Control%20Tower%20Final%20Report%2026%20January%202016%20.pdf if you haven't seen it.

It's quite miserable reading, but the thing that jumped out at me was that it was published January 2016 and it would seem as though the council have sat on it for a year.

I see from http://www.greenham.gov.uk/ that another councillor has abandoned ship too.



Yes Swift Half must have enough yes men although they will have to do as they are told of course or suffer the consequences! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 19 2017, 10:10 PM

It would seem the council have withdrawn things from the 'plan' that might mean it won't meet HSE requirements anyway.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jan 20 2017, 12:16 AM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 19 2017, 10:10 PM) *
It would seem the council have withdrawn things from the 'plan' that might mean it won't meet HSE requirements anyway.

They've also economised by decided not to fit it out as a cafe and not to do anything of the interpretation so it won't even function as a cafe or museum!

Posted by: Andy Capp Jan 20 2017, 12:49 AM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jan 20 2017, 12:16 AM) *
They've also economised by decided not to fit it out as a cafe and not to do anything of the interpretation so it won't even function as a cafe or museum!

Yes. So far this tower will simply be a glorified clean-up exercise for one to stand outside and gawp at (whilst wondering where all the money went).

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jan 20 2017, 02:16 AM

My fail meter just got turned up to eleven!

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 20 2017, 07:16 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 20 2017, 02:16 AM) *
My fail meter just got turned up to eleven!


The hand of Swift Half has struck again then? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jan 22 2017, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (Cognosco @ Jan 20 2017, 07:16 AM) *
The hand of Swift Half has struck again then? rolleyes.gif

Talking of which - why does the statue have such enormous hands? All that grasping I suppose.


This is the portrait from 1550 of John Winchcombe alias "Jack of Newbury", pointing disappointedly at his nether regions - his family name was originally Smallwood and I guess I understand why. That's certainly going to be a glum countenance frowning down on us plebs as we shuffle past his 9' high statue. I can see the statue is wearing the same hat and fur-trimmed coat as in the portrait, but it looks like the sculptor has modelled it on someone quite different - a local councillor perchance?

Posted by: Cognosco Jan 22 2017, 03:14 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jan 22 2017, 01:50 PM) *
Talking of which - why does the statue have such enormous hands? All that grasping I suppose.


This is the portrait from 1550 of John Winchcombe alias "Jack of Newbury", pointing disappointedly at his nether regions - his family name was originally Smallwood and I guess I understand why. That's certainly going to be a glum countenance frowning down on us plebs as we shuffle past his 9' high statue. I can see the statue is wearing the same hat and fur-trimmed coat as in the portrait, but it looks like the sculptor has modelled it on someone quite different - a local councillor perchance?



I hope the sculptor remembers to model him with the middle finger pointing up? It will symbolise the attitude that our local Councillors have towards the plebs who they treat with such disdain! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jan 22 2017, 03:34 PM

QUOTE (Cognosco @ Jan 22 2017, 03:14 PM) *
I hope the sculptor remembers to model him with the middle finger pointing up? It will symbolise the attitude that our local Councillors have towards the plebs who they treat with such disdain! rolleyes.gif

Quite.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 22 2017, 04:34 PM

In less strained financial times, the statue would be more than appropriate for Newbury Town Council. It represents someone who simply stood by whilst a monstrous injustice was committed.

Posted by: blackdog Jan 23 2017, 08:38 AM

QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 8 2017, 04:23 PM) *
Thanks for that. I don't do hard copy news these days.


I thought Greenham was places like Pigeon's Farm and The Nightingales.

The Nightingales is in Newbury.

Posted by: On the edge Jan 23 2017, 10:27 AM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Jan 23 2017, 08:38 AM) *
The Nightingales is in Newbury.


Not a lot of people know that.

And so the confusion that Oxfordshire are seeking to address by installing Unitary Authorities is alive and well in West Berkshire which is served by a Unitary Authority! All makes perfect sense says Alice.

Posted by: NWNREADER Feb 10 2017, 08:55 PM

Apologies for coming to this late in the day, but why does the cost of repairing the financial damage fall to residents and not the Councillors?
The report by BDO, and comments made by the ex-Clerk, suggest strongly the debt is the result of 'inappropriate' spends throughout, that the Members were told were wrong....

Posted by: Simon Kirby Feb 10 2017, 11:12 PM

QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 10 2017, 08:55 PM) *
Apologies for coming to this late in the day, but why does the cost of repairing the financial damage fall to residents and not the Councillors?
The report by BDO, and comments made by the ex-Clerk, suggest strongly the debt is the result of 'inappropriate' spends throughout, that the Members were told were wrong....

As I understand it councillors can be sued in a personal capacity for the tort of misfeasance in public office if they cause someone loss by acting maliciously or in bad faith, and I guess a council itself could sue its councillors if it was the council that had suffered the loss. There's no suggestion that anyone at GPC has acted maliciously or in bad faith.

Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 17 2017, 09:13 AM

I'd say borrowing money which is not spent on the things it was borrowed for and in a manner that was advised as illegal or against policy is 'in bad faith'; albeit not grounds for persecution.

However, don't blame the pillocks in the council, blame the idiots of Greenham who voted them in and no-doubt will continue to do so.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Feb 17 2017, 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 17 2017, 09:13 AM) *
I'd say borrowing money which is not spent on the things it was borrowed for and in a manner that was advised as illegal or against policy is 'in bad faith'; albeit not grounds for persecution.

However, don't blame the pillocks in the council, blame the idiots of Greenham who voted them in and no-doubt will continue to do so.

Bad faith implies some kind of dishonesty and ulterior motive and there's no suggestion of that. The management of the project was amateurish and bungled, but I don't see anyone suggesting it was anything but well-intentioned amateurish bungling. Like you say though, it's not like Greenham parishioners are up in arms so fair enough.

Posted by: Cognosco Feb 17 2017, 03:27 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 17 2017, 02:14 PM) *
Bad faith implies some kind of dishonesty and ulterior motive and there's no suggestion of that. The management of the project was amateurish and bungled, but I don't see anyone suggesting it was anything but well-intentioned amateurish bungling. Like you say though, it's not like Greenham parishioners are up in arms so fair enough.


Well it may be because Greenham precept payers have learned, the same as Newbury precept payers, even if you do stick your head above the parapet nothing changes? As well as putting up with the consequences for doing so! The same little club that operates the running of Newbury and the surrounding area only shuffle members around slightly and continue as normal! After all Swift Half is now back meddling with Greenham again as well as, some say, causing havoc with Newbury! cool.gif

Posted by: On the edge Feb 17 2017, 07:14 PM

QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 17 2017, 03:27 PM) *
Well it may be because Greenham precept payers have learned, the same as Newbury precept payers, even if you do stick your head above the parapet nothing changes? As well as putting up with the consequences for doing so! The same little club that operates the running of Newbury and the surrounding area only shuffle members around slightly and continue as normal! After all Swift Half is now back meddling with Greenham again as well as, some say, causing havoc with Newbury! cool.gif


Yes, local government is bust; the electorate clearly know, hence the minimal turn out at elections.

Posted by: Exhausted Feb 25 2017, 11:11 AM

I'm quite pleased I don't reside in the Greenham parish, it was a nice idea, but it was obvious from the beginning that it would end in tears. The leadership was faulty, the idea that a café would cover the running costs was faulty, the way the money was used was faulty and outside influences, **** bent on disrupting the project (BBOWT) along with planning screw-ups (WBC) were perhaps the last straw. We mustn't also forget that somewhere along the line a survey and engineering cost analysis might have been carried out or was this overlooked. Something that is standard when buying any property.

If I was the responsible councillor, I might want to fade into the background but it seems that the personal, Trump like belief in his popularity, knows no bounds. What I find disturbing is that being voted off the tower committee, he is now able to poke his nose in and also get a vote on any further decisions by the working party. This because he is now leader of the parish council. Have these parish councillors got their heads up their respective backsides when only one councillor it seems, has the sense to get out before more problems erupt.

Just as a matter of interest, if nobody voted for any parish councillors when the next election takes place, would that mean that the parish council would have to be disbanded. That way, the debt racked up by the council would go where I wonder. Perhaps that would be the path the residents could take if it relieves them of what will be hiked up Greenham precept. A carefully worded letter to every resident asking them not to vote.

Posted by: On the edge Feb 25 2017, 05:37 PM

Its just a superb example of Liberal Democracy in action - we decide what you want.

Posted by: blackdog Feb 25 2017, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (Exhausted @ Feb 25 2017, 11:11 AM) *
Just as a matter of interest, if nobody voted for any parish councillors when the next election takes place, would that mean that the parish council would have to be disbanded. That way, the debt racked up by the council would go where I wonder. Perhaps that would be the path the residents could take if it relieves them of what will be hiked up Greenham precept. A carefully worded letter to every resident asking them not to vote.


You'd never get no one to vote. And didn't they announce that the precept wasn't going up.

Posted by: Exhausted Feb 25 2017, 10:17 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 25 2017, 10:03 PM) *
You'd never get no one to vote. And didn't they announce that the precept wasn't going up.


Well I thought the former was optimistic but as far as increasing the precept, that will have to bite later if not sooner. There could be a lot of cash having to be repaid.





Posted by: blackdog Feb 25 2017, 11:03 PM

QUOTE (Exhausted @ Feb 25 2017, 10:17 PM) *
Well I thought the former was optimistic but as far as increasing the precept, that will have to bite later if not sooner. There could be a lot of cash having to be repaid.

If they wait for a few years there will be 3,000+ more homes paying the precept - a big increase in income without raising the precept.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Feb 26 2017, 03:05 AM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 25 2017, 11:03 PM) *
If they wait for a few years there will be 3,000+ more homes paying the precept - a big increase in income without raising the precept.

Though they might then have to start providing some actual public services rather than just milking the proles for vanity projects so the precept will go up soon enough. Dipping into reserves to mask the present embarrassment is pretty shabby.

Posted by: On the edge Feb 26 2017, 07:07 AM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 26 2017, 03:05 AM) *
Though they might then have to start providing some actual public services rather than just milking the proles for vanity projects so the precept will go up soon enough. Dipping into reserves to mask the present embarrassment is pretty shabby.


At least the myth that parish councils aren't political is now totally shattered. The elimination reserves to preserve even 'nice to have' projects must be LibDem policy So, then, no reason at all for any Library cuts, why aren't the LibDims screaming at WBC to empty their reserves?

.....and why isn't the District Auditor taking much more of an interest. Yet another expensive dead watchdog.

Posted by: On the edge Feb 26 2017, 07:11 AM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 25 2017, 11:03 PM) *
If they wait for a few years there will be 3,000+ more homes paying the precept - a big increase in income without raising the precept.


Yes, classic West Berkshire behaviour in fact. P*** money away before its in the bank and then complain that new homes are severely damaging the infrastructure.

Posted by: blackdog Feb 26 2017, 12:30 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 26 2017, 07:07 AM) *
At least the myth that parish councils aren't political is now totally shattered. The elimination reserves to preserve even 'nice to have' projects must be LibDem policy So, then, no reason at all for any Library cuts, why aren't the LibDims screaming at WBC to empty their reserves?

.....and why isn't the District Auditor taking much more of an interest. Yet another expensive dead watchdog.

The elimination of reserves and disosal of assets seems to be all part of the Govt's austerity process. Personally I think WBC should be using reserves and, if possible, borrowing, to fill the temporary gap in funding.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Feb 26 2017, 02:03 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 26 2017, 12:30 PM) *
The elimination of reserves and disosal of assets seems to be all part of the Govt's austerity process. Personally I think WBC should be using reserves and, if possible, borrowing, to fill the temporary gap in funding.

I agree. The Tories are using the situation to reduce expectation on public services so what we lose now we will never see again.

Don't worry though, there are no cuts at the Town Council, so while we might lose respite care for disabled children, adult mental health services, school transport, and a library service, we'll always have those essentials like a fur-robed ceremonial mayor.

Posted by: On the edge Feb 26 2017, 02:24 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 26 2017, 12:30 PM) *
The elimination of reserves and disosal of assets seems to be all part of the Govt's austerity process. Personally I think WBC should be using reserves and, if possible, borrowing, to fill the temporary gap in funding.


Quite agree with all that and it makes Greenham's decision even worse. Crass and irresponsible.

Posted by: On the edge Feb 26 2017, 02:28 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 26 2017, 02:03 PM) *
I agree. The Tories are using the situation to reduce expectation on public services so what we lose now we will never see again.

Don't worry though, there are no cuts at the Town Council, so while we might lose respite care for disabled children, adult mental health services, school transport, and a library service, we'll always have those essentials like a fur-robed ceremonial mayor.


Yes and a lovely new cafe in Victoria Park, who needs stuffy libraries in the suburbs anyway?

Posted by: Cognosco Feb 26 2017, 04:08 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 26 2017, 02:28 PM) *
Yes and a lovely new cafe in Victoria Park, who needs stuffy libraries in the suburbs anyway?


Don't forget the nice new splash pad and it's bacteria filled water! That may be used by the homeless etc for having a thorough wash! See care in the community is what our ermine robed council are about. Don't know why everyone keeps mocking them? We are spreading false news no doubt sad!

Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 26 2017, 08:04 PM

Didn't they cash in half their reserves and remove the neighbourhood wardens to achieve it?

Posted by: blackdog Feb 27 2017, 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 26 2017, 08:04 PM) *
Didn't they cash in half their reserves and remove the neighbourhood wardens to achieve it?


No -wrong council.

Posted by: Andy Capp Feb 27 2017, 01:28 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 27 2017, 10:34 AM) *
No -wrong council.

Or right council, wrong argument! tongue.gif

Posted by: dannyboy Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM

QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 26 2017, 04:08 PM) *
Don't forget the nice new splash pad and it's bacteria filled water! That may be used by the homeless etc for having a thorough wash! See care in the community is what our ermine robed council are about. Don't know why everyone keeps mocking them? We are spreading false news no doubt sad!



What a lovely post.

You must be a really nice person.


Posted by: je suis Charlie Feb 28 2017, 10:26 AM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM) *
What a lovely post.

You must be a really nice person.

Just send em round yours for a bath then?

Posted by: On the edge Feb 28 2017, 03:05 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM) *
What a lovely post.

You must be a really nice person.





Do you mean as nice as the people who think flagpoles and dressing up are more important than services for disabled kids?


Posted by: dannyboy Feb 28 2017, 03:13 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 28 2017, 03:05 PM) *
Do you mean as nice as the people who think flagpoles and dressing up are more important than services for disabled kids?



just as nice. maybe Cossie is one.

Posted by: x2lls Feb 28 2017, 03:24 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM) *
What a lovely post.

You must be a really nice person.



Irony alert missed.

Posted by: Cognosco Feb 28 2017, 05:45 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM) *
What a lovely post.

You must be a really nice person.


Oh I do despair! You once stated you were not associated with any of our local authorities but by your reply it shows the complete lack of understanding of irony so superbly suitable me thinks! rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Simon Kirby Feb 28 2017, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 28 2017, 09:54 AM) *
What a lovely post.

You must be a really nice person.

Why so hot under the collar - is the ermine itching?

Posted by: Turin Machine Feb 28 2017, 07:21 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 28 2017, 07:18 PM) *
Why so hot under the collar - is the ermine itching?

Ermine? Or weasel? Stoataly different you know.

Posted by: dannyboy Feb 28 2017, 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 28 2017, 07:18 PM) *
Why so hot under the collar - is the ermine itching?



you think that was hot?

Posted by: dannyboy Feb 28 2017, 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Cognosco @ Feb 28 2017, 05:45 PM) *
Oh I do despair! You once stated you were not associated with any of our local authorities but by your reply it shows the complete lack of understanding of irony so superbly suitable me thinks! rolleyes.gif



hit a nerve eh?

Posted by: Cognosco Mar 1 2017, 04:06 PM

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 28 2017, 08:18 PM) *
hit a nerve eh?


Pah! I am confident you would be unable to get anywhere within a mile of my steel nerve ends with your paltry attempts! But your welcome to keep trying of course it does give me the odd moment of distraction from fighting the good fight! biggrin.gif

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