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Iommi
post Sep 18 2010, 10:02 AM
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The sooner the country is rid of these shysters the better...£160.00!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14544
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post Sep 18 2010, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 18 2010, 11:02 AM) *
The sooner the country is rid of these shysters the better...£160.00!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14544


Pay & Display car parks will be empty at the weekend come the winter as folk simply leave their cars in empty office car parks.
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post Sep 18 2010, 10:22 AM
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I doubt they will be empty, but now perhaps they might try a more 'civilised' method to 'protect' their land. Or be a good citizen of Newbury and do as Bayer do.
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post Sep 18 2010, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Sep 18 2010, 11:16 AM) *
Pay & Display car parks will be empty at the weekend come the winter as folk simply leave their cars in empty office car parks.

There are other ways to prevent people from parking on your property - cowboy ticketting seems to be the replacement for cowboy clamping.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11267103
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post Sep 18 2010, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 18 2010, 11:22 AM) *
I doubt they will be empty, but now perhaps they might try a more 'civilised' method to 'protect' their land. Or be a good citizen of Newbury and do as Bayer do.

The landowners are often just at odds with the clampers. Once you sign that contract.....
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post Sep 18 2010, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 18 2010, 11:02 AM) *
The sooner the country is rid of these shysters the better...£160.00!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14544



Well said!
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post Sep 19 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Sep 18 2010, 12:46 PM) *
There are other ways to prevent people from parking on your property - cowboy ticketting seems to be the replacement for cowboy clamping.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11267103


Always remembering that cowboy 'fine' or 'penalty charge' is no such thing; it is merely an unenforceable invoice and can (together with subsequent 'threatening' letters) be totally ignored.
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post Sep 19 2010, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 18 2010, 11:02 AM) *
The sooner the country is rid of these shysters the better...£160.00!

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14544



I agree, they are cash cows; praying of the poor. The rich can defend for themselves.
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post Sep 19 2010, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 19 2010, 03:49 PM) *
Always remembering that cowboy 'fine' or 'penalty charge' is no such thing; it is merely an unenforceable invoice and can (together with subsequent 'threatening' letters) be totally ignored.

My understanding is that clamping is to be banned, but you can get fined if you park on private land without permission.
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post Sep 19 2010, 08:19 PM
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But how can the "fines" be enforced? As far as I'm aware (and going on the long discussion we had about charges in Sainsbury's car park) they are not legally enforceable.
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post Sep 19 2010, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 19 2010, 08:54 PM) *
My understanding is that clamping is to be banned, but you can get fined if you park on private land without permission.


No, you cannot.

Settled case law prevents any company in England or Wales levying fines or penalties as part of a contract. Furthermore, PPCs (Private Parking Companies) suggest that by parking, a contract is entered into by the driver. This can only be true if the driver has T&Cs displayed to him before parking.

There are statute laws covering unfair terms in contacts.

Finally, how are a PPC to find the driver at the time. The DVLA can only supply the name and address of the registered keeper. A driver, if not the RK, cannot enter into a contract on the RK's behalf The RK is under no obligation in law or otherwise, to name the driver.
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 19 2010, 10:38 PM) *
No, you cannot.

I am talking about the proposed change in law, not the one we have at the moment.

"Private car parks will still be allowed to charge motorists a fee, using ticket machines. But they will have to sign up to a strict code of conduct agreed by the British Parking Association (BPA). All signs about charges must be clear, and any fees for over-staying must be 'reasonable'. Crucially, there will be a right of appeal to an independent tribunal with the power to quash unfair charges.

Any motorist who refuses to pay will face the same sanction that applies to public roads or council car parks, which is a visit from the bailiff or a trip to the small claims court."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargains-and-...n_page_id=53949
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:47 AM
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It will be interesting to read the new legislation. If it bans clamping, blocking in and towing away on private land, then what is to stop you parking on say, someone's driveway at their home?
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Sep 20 2010, 10:47 AM) *
It will be interesting to read the new legislation. If it bans clamping, blocking in and towing away on private land, then what is to stop you parking on say, someone's driveway at their home?

You call the police.

"Where cars are abandoned or left in a dangerous place, the landowner will be able to call on the police, who will be given new powers to tow cars from private land. Currently, they can do this only on public land."

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/bargains-and-...n_page_id=53949
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post Sep 20 2010, 10:06 AM
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But in the same article

"Only police or councils will be allowed to clamp or tow away a car in exceptional circumstances, if it is obstructing a road or if the driver is a known repeat offender."
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Sep 20 2010, 11:06 AM) *
But in the same article

"Only police or councils will be allowed to clamp or tow away a car in exceptional circumstances, if it is obstructing a road or if the driver is a known repeat offender."

It does, but I don't understand your point. It does, however, explain that it will be incumbent on landlords to secure their land from trespass.
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:29 AM
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My point is, calling the police is a. A waste of their time and resources. Heavens knows there are enough threads here complaining about lack of resouces. And b. Futile as they have no powers to deal with it.

So every driveway in the country will need to be fitted with gates, bollards etc.

That's why I said "It will be interesting to read the new legislation"
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Sep 20 2010, 12:29 PM) *
My point is, calling the police is a. A waste of their time and resources. Heavens knows there are enough threads here complaining about lack of resouces. And b. Futile as they have no powers to deal with it.

So every driveway in the country will need to be fitted with gates, bollards etc.

That's why I said "It will be interesting to read the new legislation"

OK, but not every drive way in the land operated a clamping firm, so there is no difference in that respect. The Police will, it is proposed, be given new powers.
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post Sep 20 2010, 07:47 PM
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Wow.

New powers for the police.

Judging from a lot of previous posts / threads on here I think the police will be busy enough trying to fight crime!
So where, bearing in mind that in the very near future they will be subject to budget cuts of up to 40%, will the police find the resources and time to do this?!

Just a thought.........


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post Sep 20 2010, 07:54 PM
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40% cuts will mean they will be doing a lot less of a lot of stuff.
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