Mr Garvie's letter in the NWN today (20/12) is disingenuous Options

[GMR]

LETTER IN THE NWN TODAY (20^TH Dec) by Richard Garvie

"With you in tough times?

FAILING schools, rising fuel prices and help for the growing number of homeless in West Berkshire. All subjects featured in last week's letters in Newbury Weekly News.

Is this what people vote for at the last General Election when they voted Tory, or Lib Dem? Did they vote for longer waiting times at the Royal Berkshire Hospital, the withdrawal of support for those in full-time education, or the need to reply on food banks?

The economic policies of this Government have failed, and whilst our local MP 'praises' the work of local food banks, I feel he, and our local Liberal Democrat candidate, need to think about why these food banks exist in the first place.


Richard Garvie,
Newbury Labour Party"

I must take umbrage with Richard Garvie's letter in the Newbury Weekly News today. Either he is stupid or playing politics.

In his letter he says "The economic policies of this Government failed". Did anybody really expect that any government, any economic policies would solve our crisis – which I might add were caused by the Labour Government – within 2 years of being elected? The state of our debt was going to take many years into the future and properly beyond. I also must remind Mr Garvie that Alistair Darlings and Brown's economic policies weren't that far of from the Tories. All the failures that Mr Garvie pointed out would have happened whoever was in power.

Mr Garvie say the government's economic policies have failed? According to whom (apart from Labour politicians and Mr Balls)? If you listen to independent economic experts the governments polices have better chance than the current Labour parties policies of spend, spend, spend.



Mr Garvie said in today's paper "is that what people voted for at the last General Election? That is a stupid comment. We are in debt and whoever would have been in power would have created the same results. Even Balls said he wouldn't undo the coalition's government current economic policies. He is being totally disingenuous and insulting with his letter. To suggest that Labour would have solved the problems that Labour created themselves is laughable.



Just a matter of interest; we had soup kitchens and food parcels under the last failed Labour government. And didn't Brown and Darling praise those soup kitchens and food parcels when they were in government?

[motormad]

I personally think you should get out more.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but rather that nothing is really going to change because of it.

[GMR]

I personally think you should get out more.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but rather that nothing is really going to change because of it.

You could argue that everybody on here should get out more. But we write and reply because we've got something to say and want to express it. Agreement and disagreement is part of forum life; that is why we are on here.

[user23]

I personally think you should get out more.

When he does he just ends up chasing traffic wardens.

[GMR]

When he does he just ends up chasing traffic wardens.

For somebody who claims he doesn't like drivel you half write some. Too much time sitting at your computer at WBC with nothing to do.

[x2lls]

Oh well, another thread goes personal very quickly, never mind eh?

In response to OP:-

Labour are so good at spending our money like the BBC has.
I'll say it again, they always leave us broke, recession or not!

[GMR]

Oh well, another thread goes personal very quickly, never mind eh?

In response to OP:-

Labour are so good at spending our money like the BBC has.
I'll say it again, they always leave us broke, recession or not!

I agree. You try to create a thread to debate - and those that are critical of going off topic and spoiling a thread - are those that are actually the worse abusers. Maybe he should but himself on "ignore".

[user23]

For somebody who claims he doesn't like drivel you half write some. Too much time sitting at your computer at WBC with nothing to do.

I've only used the word "drivel" once before on this form, and then I was quoting you.

[GMR]

I've only used the word "drivel" once before on this form, and then I was quoting you.

That is not the point. You criticise others for spoiling threads (and not saying anything intelligent) and that we all should put so-and-so on "ignore" when you do exactly what you condemn others for. Which makes your a hypocrite. It is all right for you to spoil threads but when somebody does it to you, you get on your high horse. By your own admission you should put yourself on "ignore".

[user23]

That is not the point.

Of course it is. You've claimed I've said something I haven't; in fact it was you that said it.

In this thread I was just replying to a post by motormad with a quick quip about your traffic warden stalking antics. No need to take it so personally.

[GMR]

Of course it is. You've claimed I've said something I haven't; in fact it was you that said it.

In this thread I was just replying to a post by motormad with a quick quip about your traffic warden stalking antics. No need to take it so personally.

I wasn't taking personally, it is just annoying that you accuse me of doing something and then doing the same yourself; i.e spoiling threads. Personally I don't care what people do to threads; but don't criticise others for doing something you don't like and then do it yourself. As I said, it makes you look like a hypocrite.

[motormad]

Popcorn for everybody!

[Penelope]

Popcorn for everybody!

OOoh yes please, and can you turn the sound up a bit?

[user23]

Popcorn for everybody!

Salt or sugar?

[motormad]

All sorts, even Toffee! Arguably the best kind of popcorn. Butterkist is just... Mmm, mmm, mmm mm mm.

OOoh yes please, and can you turn the sound up a bit?

Up to 11, Lady P.

[Andy Capp]

No party put us in the situation we, as a country, find ourselves; fate and the population did that.

[On the edge]

No party put us in the situation we, as a country, find ourselves; fate and the population did that.

Nevertheless, politicians steer us and set the drum beat. Labour still haven't quite got it. For instance, listening to Margaret Beckett being very sanctimonious on the committee grilling Starbucks and the like about avoiding taxes, legally avoiding that is where she was twittering on about moral duties!! I would love to have been the Company representative answering her questions! All we've done is copied the House Mrs B but at least we kept the law! Similarly, us off shoring our HO function and doing high recharges; well we thought you lot liked PFI! Similarly, all the Socialist squealscalling for Mitchell's resignation because he swore at a Copper but OK for the Deputy PM to physically assault a member of the public!

Lets have some real difference and can't the Labour Party remember first principals. Not a chance these days as we all have short memories so suspect that's what Richard Garvey is hoping for!

[pbonnay]

Is the author responsible for the appalling grammar seen in the letter, or has his prose been edited?

[Andy Capp]

Nevertheless, politicians steer us and set the drum beat. Labour still haven't quite got it. For instance, listening to Margaret Beckett being very sanctimonious on the committee grilling Starbucks and the like about avoiding taxes, legally avoiding that is where she was twittering on about moral duties!! I would love to have been the Company representative answering her questions! All we've done is copied the House Mrs B but at least we kept the law! Similarly, us off shoring our HO function and doing high recharges; well we thought you lot liked PFI! Similarly, all the Socialist squealscalling for Mitchell's resignation because he swore at a Copper but OK for the Deputy PM to physically assault a member of the public!

Lets have some real difference and can't the Labour Party remember first principals. Not a chance these days as we all have short memories so suspect that's what Richard Garvey is hoping for!

People voted Labour in with a significant majority; 'more the same please' we said. I saw no popular concern at the time by the general public that the economy was 'over-heating'.

[NORTHENDER]

A resounding 'more the same please' three times I think.