UK Under Attack Options

[Simon Kirby]

The NHS is currently under attack from cyber-criminals - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/39901370

Security analysts have been saying for years that the top-tier threats to UK security are 1. international terrorism, 2. cyber-criminality, and 3. pandemic, and the UK is painfully exposed to these real credible threats because all the serious money is being spent on a nuclear deterrent from the 1980's despite there no longer being a single state in the world with both the capability and intent to threaten the UK's territorial integrity.

[je suis Charlie]

And the thousands of jobs that would go with trident? Oh wait, Scotland, right, who cares!

[blackdog]

And the thousands of jobs that would go with trident? Oh wait, Scotland, right, who cares!

Must be getting on for 10,000 jobs in West Berkshire dependent on it.

[Simon Kirby]

Must be getting on for 10,000 jobs in West Berkshire dependent on it.

Would you be happy for the state to prop-up 10,000 non-jobs in an anachronistic industry producing something as awful as nuclear weapons, or would you support local state investment in cyber-security, medical research, and anti-terrorism with a re-training programme to move that workforce over.

[Berkshirelad]

Would you be happy for the state to prop-up 10,000 non-jobs in an anachronistic industry producing something as awful as nuclear weapons, or would you support local state investment in cyber-security, medical research, and anti-terrorism with a re-training programme to move that workforce over.

Your argument is void.

This is not a binary choice; not one or the other.

There is no mutual exclusivity; you could have both

[Simon Kirby]

Your argument is void.

This is not a binary choice; not one or the other.

There is no mutual exclusivity; you could have both

No, both options together are too expensive so if you prop-up 10,000 non-jobs in an anachronistic industry producing something as awful as nuclear weapons then even if you wanted to you wouldn't have that £200billion of public money to invest in cyber-security, medical research, and anti-terrorism, and obviously you wouldn't need a re-training programme to move that workforce over if you were happy to keep the anachronistic non-jobs.