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Jun 29 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (regor @ Jun 29 2010, 05:14 PM) Perhaps it is because there are many times when it seems like the forum is a semi-exclusive club dominated by a couple of dozen regulars who don't like newcomers who disagree with their set of fixed views on every topic. That was certainly my impression when I first took an interest in this forum. I agree it can appear like that especially to a newcomer. But the only way that can be broken, and opened up to a wider debate, is if newcomers contribute. What is the point in registering if you do not intend to contribute? You do not have to register to view. This is, after all, a debating forum so views will be disagreed with but I have not yet experienced, I do not believe, in anyone rebuking a newcomer as that would have the effect of destroying the whole point of this forum.
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Jun 29 2010, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 29 2010, 08:02 PM) I agree it can appear like that especially to a newcomer.
But the only way that can be broken, and opened up to a wider debate, is if newcomers contribute. What is the point in registering if you do not intend to contribute? You do not have to register to view.
This is, after all, a debating forum so views will be disagreed with but I have not yet experienced, I do not believe, in anyone rebuking a newcomer as that would have the effect of destroying the whole point of this forum. Check out newbie Bill Kennicabs in the Newbury News category. He made a valid point, and OK his punctuation wasn't great, but his OP was understandable. Most of the following posts are taking the proverbial and rebuking him for punctuation. Not funny or nice.
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Jun 30 2010, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jun 30 2010, 12:10 AM) Check out newbie Bill Kennicabs in the Newbury News category. He made a valid point, and OK his punctuation wasn't great, but his OP was understandable. Most of the following posts are taking the proverbial and rebuking him for punctuation. Not funny or nice. This forum needs better moderation. Recent incidents will do nothing to encourage new people to air their views and as you suggest petty minded posts about punctuation also keep people from adding to it.
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Jun 30 2010, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jun 30 2010, 07:06 AM) This forum needs better moderation. Recent incidents will do nothing to encourage new people to air their views and as you suggest petty minded posts about punctuation also keep people from adding to it. I agree, on my forums we wouldn't allow certain things and would immediately remove it; such as using your first name (unless it was ok). I noticed they commented on it but didn't move it (you name is still for all to see). I would imagine they don't remove such things as they get a big kick out of it.
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Jun 30 2010, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jun 30 2010, 12:10 AM) Check out newbie Bill Kennicabs in the Newbury News category. He made a valid point, and OK his punctuation wasn't great, but his OP was understandable. Most of the following posts are taking the proverbial and rebuking him for punctuation. Not funny or nice. Fair comment and as one of those I apologise although it has been played on me many times. I was reticent about commenting on that which you describe but it was started by another. I was NOT taking the proverbial - just commenting on posting technique which may have helped him to express himself better. Then, having thought about it, who am I to think that any style is worse or better than anyone else? However that is no excuse and I take the point - no further comments on grammar! But you have to be fairly thick skinned if you are going to air your views on an Internet forum as it is inevitable that many will disagree, sometimes passionately, on controversial subjects. (Football? )
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Jun 30 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jun 30 2010, 06:12 PM) Fair comment and as one of those I apologise although it has been played on me many times. I was reticent about commenting on that which you describe but it was started by another. I was NOT taking the proverbial - just commenting on posting technique which may have helped him to express himself better. Then, having thought about it, who am I to think that any style is worse or better than anyone else? However that is no excuse and I take the point - no further comments on grammar! But you have to be fairly thick skinned if you are going to air your views on an Internet forum as it is inevitable that many will disagree, sometimes passionately, on controversial subjects. (Football? ) Takes a big man (or woman) to see anothers point of view Biker and not be blinkered. I think a thick is grown over time. First time I posted on a forum I was hesitant but the skin soon grew.
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Jul 1 2010, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jun 30 2010, 07:32 PM) Takes a big man (or woman) to see anothers point of view Biker and not be blinkered. I think a thick is grown over time. First time I posted on a forum I was hesitant but the skin soon grew. Quite right, if you intend to give it out you should be prepared to take it. Also on an anonimous forum you should be prepared for members to be gatherig clues from your posts to try to identify personal data about you.
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Jul 1 2010, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 1 2010, 09:00 AM) Quite right, if you intend to give it out you should be prepared to take it. Also on an anonimous forum you should be prepared for members to be gatherig clues from your posts to try to identify personal data about you. There's nothing wrong about that. In my view, it's when people use the forum to cast aspersions with unsubstantiated personal attacks it becomes unacceptable.
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Jul 1 2010, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Jun 30 2010, 12:10 AM) Check out newbie Bill Kennicabs in the Newbury News category. He made a valid point, and OK his punctuation wasn't great, but his OP was understandable. Most of the following posts are taking the proverbial and rebuking him for punctuation. Not funny or nice. Agreed. More often than not, threads on this forum end up going completely off the topic and usually end up slating someones punctuation, this isn't debate.
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Jul 1 2010, 09:48 AM
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Just wanted to say hello to you all. I used to post when the forum first started but I doubt any of the old regulars will remember me. My username used to be Amiebb. Have recognised quite a few old names but have not had chance to read through all posts properly yet. Is the guy who writes to the NWN every week, constantly moaning still here? Sorry, really can't remember your username considering I use to argue with you all the time! I suspect your still here though ) Anyway, i'm back now and looking forward to getting back into debates and reading through the posts. x
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Jul 1 2010, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 1 2010, 10:48 AM) Just wanted to say hello to you all. I used to post when the forum first started but I doubt any of the old regulars will remember me. My username used to be Amiebb. Have recognised quite a few old names but have not had chance to read through all posts properly yet. Is the guy who writes to the NWN every week, constantly moaning still here? Sorry, really can't remember your username considering I use to argue with you all the time! I suspect your still here though ) Anyway, i'm back now and looking forward to getting back into debates and reading through the posts. x Why the new Username, the old one is still active?
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Jul 1 2010, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 1 2010, 11:09 AM) Why the new Username, the old one is still active? I couldn't remember my old password and when I got sent it my computer blocked the link to the forum through work) . I will probbaly be blocked again soon so making the most of it now.
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Jul 1 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jul 1 2010, 11:17 AM) I couldn't remember my old password and when I got sent it my computer blocked the link to the forum through work) . I will probbaly be blocked again soon so making the most of it now. Let's hope so.
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Jul 1 2010, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Jul 1 2010, 12:05 PM) Let's hope so. Not very charitable. (perhaps I should have used a smiley. That's a bit like having feinites, excuses one from the game/forum comment or by starting a sentence with "With all due respect...." and then continuing with an insult.)
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Jul 1 2010, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Jul 1 2010, 07:26 PM) I remember you Aimee - shopping trolleys right??
Nice to see you back on here. Now I remember... I second what Strafin said.
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