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Jan 25 2011, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 09:42 PM) But your comments are sexist and wrong. If somebody is capable of doing a job then they shouldn't be prevented because of their sex. I see men and women as equal (granted there are those - of both sexes - that we all would consider not equal or even human behaviour... but that is another story).
What is wrong with society is in your post. What is more surprising is that it comes from a woman.
If a woman or a man is capable then nothing should stop them. I never said anyone should be prevented from doing a job, and no nothing should stop them....But if I walked in a salon and a guy was sat there ready to do my nails I would say no!! They are too rough to do nails, females have the caring touch..lol
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Jan 25 2011, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 25 2011, 09:57 PM) And you have never made a joke at someone elses expense? His joke was not just at the expense of one person, but all women.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jan 25 2011, 10:01 PM) I never said anyone should be prevented from doing a job, and no nothing should stop them....But if I walked in a salon and a guy was sat there ready to do my nails I would say no!! They are too rough to do nails, females have the caring touch..lol And you've been done by all men (i.e. your nails done by men) to know this as a fact? It is a bit like me saying I met a couple of girls and they were rough; so all women are rough. If you have a problem with men doing your nails then the problem is with you, and not the men... or your experience with certain men.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 25 2011, 10:02 PM) I thought it was funny. The only women who seem offended are the ones that look like blokes anyway! Bit like the kick-up about the ageism the other day. The only ones kicking were old women themselves. Then you don't know many women then... or your experience with women is very limited. And as for men looking like 'men'; that is a matter of opinion/ ones own judgement.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 25 2011, 10:02 PM) Women can't take a joke, that's the problem. No sense of humour. The problem with that statement is that it is not just women who found it offensive, and also it wasn't women who complained or got them suspended.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 25 2011, 10:02 PM) His joke was not just at the expense of one person, but all women. Oh come on, there are so many jokes about men and women going around....alot of people say them they just got caught out. It went straight over my head as I have heard worse.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 25 2011, 10:08 PM) If this was about a women talking about men you wouldn't have heard diddly squat. If it was a woman talking about men like that it would still be the same result; sexist. But this debate is not about women but men abusing their position and their ignorance.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (Rosewinelover @ Jan 25 2011, 10:08 PM) Oh come on, there are so many jokes about men and women going around....alot of people say them they just got caught out. It went straight over my head as I have heard worse. That is true, but doesn't make it right. I've also heard worse, but it was said on national TV and against the company policy. They weren't paid to belittle women or anybody.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 10:10 PM) If it was a woman talking about men like that it would still be the same result; sexist. But this debate is not about women but men abusing their position and their ignorance. The old motto: if you can't take a joke, then you shouldn't sign on. Women in the work place; bitching and moaning all day. Even women I know think that!
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Jan 25 2011, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 10:11 PM) I've also heard worse, but it was said on national TV and against the company policy. They weren't paid to belittle women or anybody. They were 'grassed', and now we've got people like you: the thought police and a bit of an old women as well it seems.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 10:11 PM) That is true, but doesn't make it right.
I've also heard worse, but it was said on national TV and against the company policy. They weren't paid to belittle women or anybody. No it's not right but should he of been sacked? No, not in my opinion. It was just a JOKE. Chris Moyles says worse on his programme every morning, he should of been sacked along time ago then...
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Jan 25 2011, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 25 2011, 10:02 PM) His joke was not just at the expense of one person, but all women. Quite right to where things women can't understand are concerned.
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Jan 25 2011, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Jan 25 2011, 10:13 PM) The old motto: if you can't take a joke, then you shouldn't sign on.
Women in the work place; bitching and moaning all day. Even women I know think that! You have a very low opinion of women.... been deprived of sex have we?
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Jan 25 2011, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jan 25 2011, 10:18 PM) You have a very low opinion of women.... been deprived of sex have we? No I'm gay; what of it?
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