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newres
post Aug 6 2018, 06:58 AM
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It’s coming.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independ...7686.html%3famp

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post Aug 6 2018, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 6 2018, 07:58 AM) *


FAKE NEWS!!! wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. There again the whole sorry saga could just have been down to a miscount.


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post Aug 6 2018, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 6 2018, 07:58 AM) *


Dream on... Though it would be funny in a way when leave won again. What would you do as a matter of interest? Demand a best of 5?😂
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post Aug 6 2018, 04:18 PM
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Duplicate. **** 4g.
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post Aug 6 2018, 06:09 PM
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We’ll see my faux northern friend.
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post Aug 6 2018, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 6 2018, 05:17 PM) *
Dream on... Though it would be funny in a way when leave won again. What would you do as a matter of interest? Demand a best of 5?😂


I would like to see remain win and then the leave brigade can justifiably cry foul and demand a third. In fact we could run it every eighteen months as a national pastime, bit like horse of the year show. cool.gif


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post Aug 6 2018, 08:24 PM
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I think Jacob Rees-Mogg is correct in this video, and we should have a referendum on the final deal.

https://metro.co.uk/video/jacob-rees-mogg-s...6/?ito=vjs-link
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post Aug 7 2018, 05:06 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 6 2018, 07:58 AM) *

What another one!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 7 2018, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 6 2018, 07:58 PM) *
I would like to see remain win and then the leave brigade can justifiably cry foul and demand a third. In fact we could run it every eighteen months as a national pastime, bit like horse of the year show. cool.gif

Remain have won. Brexit no longer means Brexit whatever happens now.
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post Aug 7 2018, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 7 2018, 09:06 AM) *
Remain have won. Brexit no longer means Brexit whatever happens now.

What a cr0ck of sh1t. How have remain won? Its a case of may or may not ne a hard brexit and you certainly dont "win" anything without a vote. We had one and leave won. If we have another leave will win again. Remainers only follow remainer news....
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post Aug 7 2018, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 7 2018, 06:07 PM) *
What a cr0ck of sh1t. How have remain won? Its a case of may or may not ne a hard brexit and you certainly dont "win" anything without a vote. We had one and leave won. If we have another leave will win again. Remainers only follow remainer news....

Well Rees Mogg and David Davies are on record as backing a second vote so hopefully we’ll get a chance to vote on the deal.

What’s become clear is there’s no negotiation to be done and there’s no real deal to be had so in light of that we ought to get an “are you really sure about this” vote. I’m sure we’ll still vote leave so I can’t see a problem. The important thing is that we know what we’re voting for now.
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post Aug 7 2018, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 7 2018, 07:16 PM) *
Well Rees Mogg and David Davies are on record as backing a second vote so hopefully we’ll get a chance to vote on the deal.

What’s become clear is there’s no negotiation to be done and there’s no real deal to be had so in light of that we ought to get an “are you really sure about this” vote. I’m sure we’ll still vote leave so I can’t see a problem. The important thing is that we know what we’re voting for now.


You are spot on about there being no negotiation. There hasn't been since day one. In negotiation terms the EU has maintained a take it or leave it stance. Commercially, when that happens only answer is to walk away and do something else. A real negotiating team would have come home several months back, and far from being 'nice' to EU Heads of State, that ends now surely?



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post Aug 7 2018, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 7 2018, 08:11 PM) *
You are spot on about there being no negotiation. There hasn't been since day one. In negotiation terms the EU has maintained a take it or leave it stance. Commercially, when that happens only answer is to walk away and do something else. A real negotiating team would have come home several months back, and far from being 'nice' to EU Heads of State, that ends now surely?


Time for a bit of hard ball. Tell the germans we dont want german cars and the french can stick the champers, wine and cheese up there @rse. We have a lovely continental climate for vineyards now. Oh and lets close the channel tunnel.😂 Time to go all "Trump". Actually would have been better to do it 2 years ago. We may have got somewhere by now if we had.
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post Aug 8 2018, 05:11 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Aug 7 2018, 07:16 PM) *
The important thing is that we know what we’re voting for now.

Do we?
I'm unsure of the consequences of staying in!!
No one has explained that to me because no-one knows.
So either way do we know what we are voting for in the long term without a crystal ball?
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post Aug 8 2018, 06:01 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 8 2018, 06:11 AM) *
Do we?
I'm unsure of the consequences of staying in!!
No one has explained that to me because no-one knows.
So either way do we know what we are voting for in the long term without a crystal ball?


This is actually something that ought to be pushed and pushed hard. Certainly the scenarios I've heard aren't good and frankly rather disturbing. There is one worse alternative; going back. Now we've really seen and tasted the attitude a return would not be even worth contemplating.


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post Aug 12 2018, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Aug 7 2018, 09:06 AM) *
Remain have won. Brexit no longer means Brexit whatever happens now.

Err yes, it does. Brexit means Brexit. Where do these people go to school?


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post Aug 13 2018, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 13 2018, 12:13 AM) *
Err yes, it does. Brexit means Brexit. Where do these people go to school?


Strasbourg ? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif


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post Aug 13 2018, 09:38 AM
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The only person I have heard talk any sense about Brexit is Danny Dyer because the only facts are, nobody knows! There are people who voted for Brexit who would like a hard Irish border. There are people who voted Brexit who don't. There are people who voted Brexit and wanted to stay in the customs union and plenty who don't. They are all leave voters, they are not all getting what they voted for.
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