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post Jan 29 2017, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 29 2017, 04:49 PM) *
Now, that's funny laugh.gif


Build the wall!!! Winter is coming..... wink.gif
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post Jan 29 2017, 10:04 PM
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At the time of writing, the petition is approaching 750,000 signatures. At the rate it's increasing it will be over a million in a couple of days...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Edit: in the time it took to write this post it got well past that number
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post Jan 29 2017, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 29 2017, 10:04 PM) *
At the time of writing, the petition is approaching 750,000 signatures. At the rate it's increasing it will be over a million in a couple of days...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Edit: in the time it took to write this post it got well past that number

And?


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post Jan 29 2017, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 29 2017, 10:13 PM) *
And?

What do you mean "And?" Quite a respectable figure, don't you think? Have you signed yet?
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post Jan 29 2017, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 29 2017, 10:16 PM) *
What do you mean "And?" Quite a respectable figure, don't you think? Have you signed yet?

Nope, and I won't be, I leave that nonsence to the liberal luvvies.


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post Jan 29 2017, 11:16 PM
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Oooo a petition. That'll scare Donald. To be frank if I was him Id tell the UK I wasn't coming and dont give a sh1t. And he probably will.
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post Jan 29 2017, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 29 2017, 10:16 PM) *
What do you mean "And?" Quite a respectable figure, don't you think? Have you signed yet?

No, me niether, where was the petition stopping China, or Russia or the Saudis, or Kuwait. None of which have have what you would call even a passable human rights record, but, an heres the rub, DT who is only making good on the election promises that got him elected cant come? really? Cos hes a nasty man? really? A furore constituted by the lib luvs. Pointless people with nothing better to do than run around squeaking like excited schoolgirls!! angry.gif


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Isn’t it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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post Jan 30 2017, 09:48 AM
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Nobody did anything when a similar person came to power in the 1930s. And look what happened.
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post Jan 30 2017, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 30 2017, 09:48 AM) *
Nobody did anything when a similar person came to power in the 1930s. And look what happened.

From The Times,

"Millions are in the grip of Traumatic Trump Syndrome and boy, is it starting to wear. Of course, we are entitled to feel concerned by some of his policies, not least the three-month suspension of arrivals from seven Muslim-majority countries. A policy which would see Sir Mo Farah detained on arrival is clearly nuts and unworthy of the United States. But to compare Mrs May to Neville Chamberlain for her delay in condemning this is nonsense. Trump is not a fascist dictator. He is a democratically elected president who represents the wishes of over 60 million Americans, whether we like it or not. Strangely, there was not the same outcry when Obama banned refugees from Iraq for six months in 2011."

"So much of the criticism is branded as a “fight back”, with promises not to take the presidency lying down. But what do the anguished luvvies, the angry tweeters, the animated talking heads achieve through their obsessive vilification — beyond the trumpeting of their own moral credentials? There is a kind of laziness in all this. Because it is so easy to rail against Trump, to harrumph about his latest outrageous comment — yet it is so, so pointless. Marching in London, tweeting in Manchester, stamping your feet in Stevenage; it won’t make the slightest difference to the executive orders Trump signs or the policies he pursues. You might as well fight the tides as fight an elected president of another country let alone this one, who sees criticism as a reason to double-down not back down."

Got it pretty much right as well!


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post Jan 30 2017, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 30 2017, 09:54 AM) *
Got it pretty much right as well!

In your opinion.

You don't say who wrote that article. It might help to give some perspective. It sounds like something Piers Morgan would write.
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post Jan 30 2017, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 30 2017, 10:20 AM) *
In your opinion.

You don't say who wrote that article. It might help to give some perspective. It sounds like something Piers Morgan would write.

Clare Foges.


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post Jan 30 2017, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 30 2017, 09:48 AM) *
Nobody did anything when a similar person came to power in the 1930s. And look what happened.

House!! Luvvies bingo. When one of you lot come across someone who doesn't subscribe to your wood burning stove, hemp trousered ideal first thing you does is start calling peoples racist or in this case a Nazi! Well done, keep reinforce the image.


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Isn’t it obvious? She's just an uppity.
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post Jan 30 2017, 11:02 AM
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Actually, I think the May / Chamberlain comparison is spot on.......thank goodness.

Chamberlain was actually a very good Prime Minister, who was held in public esteem for much of his premiership. That's why Neville became a popular boys name at the time. There is also a case to be made for saying Chamberlain laid the foundations on which the NHS could be built, but for his reforms, its doubtful it would have happened.

Then we have his 'downfall' . He was the only World Leader to declare war and mean it. Sure, there was a long period of negotiation before hand. He did realise the 'Peace with honour' speech was a mistake, almost as soon as he made it; read the academic histories. Nonetheless, he did use the time to ready the nation for war. So why did he have to go? Well, the war wasn't going as well as it should have been; again, the academic histories are illuminating. However, he earned the unwavering respect of his replacement who he wholly supported loyally until his death.

Mrs May can hold her head up high being compared to him. Apparently she holds his dad Joe Chamberlain in respect too.



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post Jan 30 2017, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jan 30 2017, 10:43 AM) *
House!! Luvvies bingo. When one of you lot come across someone who doesn't subscribe to your wood burning stove, hemp trousered ideal first thing you does is start calling peoples racist or in this case a Nazi! Well done, keep reinforce the image.

Well, I have better things to do than argue with the bigots on here. Bye.
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post Jan 30 2017, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 30 2017, 02:42 PM) *
Well, I have better things to do than argue with the bigots on here. Bye.

Racist, Nazi and now bigot! Will wonders never cease. Good ole luvvie argument, if you don't agree with em your probably one of the above! Bless em.


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post Jan 30 2017, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 30 2017, 02:42 PM) *
Well, I have better things to do than argue with the bigots on here. Bye.

Bigot,
a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life:
If I was being uncharitable one could say that applied to you as well, but I won't. cool.gif


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post Feb 4 2017, 11:34 PM
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Guess this is ok as its Trump.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38867961

The stupid thing is the more you back him into a corner......

Talk to him. Reason with him. He is an elected leader.

The #resistance are I am afraid..... thick.😮
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post Feb 5 2017, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 30 2017, 09:54 AM) *
From The Times, ...

Do you not worry when a national newspaper tells you so explicitly not to think about the argument but just to mock anyone who doesn't share the establishment view. *insert reference to dystopian novel*.


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post Feb 5 2017, 08:19 AM
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No, not when they're right. I don't.


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post Feb 5 2017, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 4 2017, 11:34 PM) *
Guess this is ok as its Trump.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38867961

The stupid thing is the more you back him into a corner......

Talk to him. Reason with him. He is an elected leader.

The #resistance are I am afraid..... thick.��
Looks like the US courts have reversed this for now anyway.
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