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Phil_D11102
post Apr 26 2019, 11:08 AM
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Is this what the WBC, the Corn Exchange, Greenham Parish Council and the Greenham Trust has diluted the sacrifices of U.S. and British forces down to, a dramatic representation? These young men, many did not return, gathered on Greenham Common to jump into Nazi held France to start the liberation of Europe.

One of the most iconic photos of the WWII was taken on the 5th of June, and there is nothing after 75 years to commemorate this.

Shameful, simply shameful.


"The eyes of the world are upon you" General Dwight D. Eisenhower.

75 years ago, Eisenhower made his famous speech at Greenham Common to encourage allied soldiers in preparation for the D-Day landings. Commemorating the legacy of this extraordinary moment in our history on both a local and national scale, follow Eisenhower in the days leading up to this event, along with a company from the 101st Airborne Divison stationed at Greenham and hear the stories of the local people of Newbury.

Audiences can expect to be taken back in time to experience the challenges and jubilance of war and to help them better understand how it affected those living on the air base and in the local area. Taking place at the recently extended 101 Outdoor Arts Creation Space on Greenham Business Park, D-Day 75 will comprise of interactive immersive performances from over 100 community performers, which will culminate in a celebratory tea dance led by a professional band of musicians.

Written by the Watermill Theatre’s playwright in residence Danielle Pearson and co-produced with Corn Exchange Newbury and Greenham Trust

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je suis Charlie
post May 2 2019, 02:57 PM
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It is I'm afraid can sign of the times, events that freed us from the tyranny of the Nazi's is mostly ignored except for benefits to the box office while a bunch of unwashed weekend warriors disruption of Newbury is treated as being 'cool' and 'culturally relevant'.
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post May 2 2019, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ May 2 2019, 03:57 PM) *
It is I'm afraid can sign of the times, events that freed us from the tyranny of the Nazi's is mostly ignored except for benefits to the box office while a bunch of unwashed weekend warriors disruption of Newbury is treated as being 'cool' and 'culturally relevant'.

Nazi's what?

It is a fact that Greenham is most remembered for cruise missiles and the protests. If we held a "do" at every location related to D Day we'd be swamped.
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post May 2 2019, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 04:03 PM) *
Nazi's what?

It is a fact that Greenham is most remembered for cruise missiles and the protests. If we held a "do" at every location related to D Day we'd be swamped.



Thanks to the determination of NATO, the deployment of the cruise missile across Europe finished off the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Anyone who doesn't believe that is deluded. There are no celebrations for that.

How many of those young men who jumped out of the planes over Nazi occupied France are still alive? There will be celebrations in France for their liberation, but what about celebrating the fact that the UK didn't need to be liberated?

There is no plaque or monument up at Greenham who jumped into the night sky, and after 75 years, isn't it about time they are recognized here locally.

Again, one of the most iconic photos of WWII was taken locally, and that is not remembered anywhere in this area.

Shameful.
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post May 2 2019, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ May 2 2019, 05:05 PM) *
Thanks to the determination of NATO, the deployment of the cruise missile across Europe finished off the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Anyone who doesn't believe that is deluded. There are no celebrations for that.

How many of those young men who jumped out of the planes over Nazi occupied France are still alive? There will be celebrations in France for their liberation, but what about celebrating the fact that the UK didn't need to be liberated?

There is no plaque or monument up at Greenham who jumped into the night sky, and after 75 years, isn't it about time they are recognized here locally.

Again, one of the most iconic photos of WWII was taken locally, and that is not remembered anywhere in this area.

Shameful.

It’s a view. I do think there’s a strong argument that nuclear weapons kept the peace but don’t forget Kennedy was willing to sacrifice us over the Cuba crisis so I shouldn’t get too dewy eyed. The idea that cruise missiles finished off the Warsaw Pact is ridiculous frankly.


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post May 9 2019, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 2 2019, 09:10 PM) *
It’s a view. I do think there’s a strong argument that nuclear weapons kept the peace but don’t forget Kennedy was willing to sacrifice us over the Cuba crisis so I shouldn’t get too dewy eyed. The idea that cruise missiles finished off the Warsaw Pact is ridiculous frankly.


Are you serious? Stop drinking the Kool aid. Do you think the peace women ended the Cold War and the saw the demise of the Warsaw Pact. I guess the INF treaty had nothing to do with it.
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post May 9 2019, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ May 9 2019, 11:52 AM) *
Are you serious? Stop drinking the Kool aid. Do you think the peace women ended the Cold War and the saw the demise of the Warsaw Pact. I guess the INF treaty had nothing to do with it.

Can you explain how that treaty led to the demise of the Warsaw Pact?

The Peace Women certainly raised awareness of the Americans sticking nuclear weapons on our soil. They put Greenham Common on the map too.
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post May 11 2019, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 9 2019, 11:54 AM) *
Can you explain how that treaty led to the demise of the Warsaw Pact?

The Peace Women certainly raised awareness of the Americans sticking nuclear weapons on our soil. They put Greenham Common on the map too.


Do your homework on this; it was in fact West German government and Jim Callaghan that urged the deployment of GLCM.
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post May 12 2019, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ May 11 2019, 09:29 PM) *
Do your homework on this; it was in fact West German government and Jim Callaghan that urged the deployment of GLCM.

I wasn’t even in my teens, but the first result from Google doesn’t really back up what you say and I can’t imagine any Labour government “urging” a deployment here. The US have always been willing to sacrifice Europe in a nuclear war.
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post May 13 2019, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ May 12 2019, 06:18 PM) *
I wasn’t even in my teens, but the first result from Google doesn’t really back up what you say and I can’t imagine any Labour government “urging” a deployment here. The US have always been willing to sacrifice Europe in a nuclear war.


The Cruise was developed and a deterrent to the Soviet build up of their short and medium range nuclear.

The cruise and NATO resolve did it's job, it brought the Russians to the table and end the Cold War.

If anyone thinks different they need to stop drinking the kool aid made by the Greenham women and CND..
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post May 13 2019, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ May 13 2019, 08:17 AM) *
The Cruise was developed and a deterrent to the Soviet build up of their short and medium range nuclear.

The cruise and NATO resolve did it's job, it brought the Russians to the table and end the Cold War.

If anyone thinks different they need to stop drinking the kool aid made by the Greenham women and CND..

That really is just an opinion. Gorbachev becoming leader had nothing to do with Cruise missiles. The Soviets already had plenty of capability to wipe out Western Europe so it wasn’t a deterrent to building more. I can’t pretend to have huge knowledge of the subject, but there’s some obvious nonsense being spouted on here.
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