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post Jan 5 2016, 10:36 PM
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A tragedy unfolds.
Could it happen here?


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post Jan 15 2016, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jan 14 2016, 12:30 AM) *
German women told to change their lifestyle, Jews advised not to wear the kippa.

What next I wonder.

Another nail in the coffin of freedom to live our lives as we wish.

Towns in Rhineland are now cancelling their annual Karneval processions, making direct references to the 'unpleasantness' that took place in Koln. If you know how important Fasching is to the average Rhinelander then you might some idea of how well this is going down in those parts of Germany. The start of a cultural surrender to Islam.
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post Jan 15 2016, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jan 15 2016, 01:11 AM) *
Towns in Rhineland are now cancelling their annual Karneval processions, making direct references to the 'unpleasantness' that took place in Koln. If you know how important [f]Fasching [/i] is to the average Rhinelander then you might some idea of how well this is going down in those parts of Germany. The start of a cultural surrender to Islam.


Sure, but actually its a surrender to panic and it happens every time such situations occur. Exactly the same type of response occurred at the hight of the Irish troubles here. Evens were cancelled, members of HM forces were asked not to wear uniforms, anyone with an Irish accent was looked on with suspicion etc. etc. etc. Its down to 'us the people' not to let that happen; but I wonder how many will band together to do that? For instance; would we let the Racecource suspend racing because they were told WBC feared a possible attack?


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post Jan 16 2016, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 15 2016, 07:14 AM) *
Sure, but actually its a surrender to panic and it happens every time such situations occur. Exactly the same type of response occurred at the height of the Irish troubles here. Evens were cancelled, members of HM forces were asked not to wear uniforms, anyone with an Irish accent was looked on with suspicion etc. etc. etc. Its down to 'us the people' not to let that happen; but I wonder how many will band together to do that? For instance; would we let the Racecourse suspend racing because they were told WBC feared a possible attack?



How on earth you can you make any such comparison with the Irish troubles and today's issues just beggars belief.

Your interpretation is utter rubbish and is the best example of blindfolded stupidity.
Do you really think that a potential terrorist attack would be announced by WBC? LMFAO!!!


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How on earth you can you make any such comparison with the Irish troubles and today's issues just beggars belief.

Your interpretation is utter rubbish and is the best example of blindfolded stupidity.
Do you really think that a potential terrorist attack would be announced by WBC? LMFAO!!!


Well, at at least its not blind hatred.

I'm sorry you can't see the implications, or indeed why I used WBC as the body issuing such a suggestion. Of course WBC wouldn't announce an attack, but they would give advice and instruction to public event promoters, that's their job. There is no point in explaining any further.

We are presently remembering what happened 100 years ago at the moment. When the press was reporting that German soldiers were bayoneting babies and cutting breasts off women and so inflaming the same passions. They weren't following any religious belief; but simply wanted to expand their nation.

We like to think we are now immune to jingoism, clearly that's not the case..


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post Jan 16 2016, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 16 2016, 07:35 AM) *
Well, at at least its not blind hatred.

I'm sorry you can't see the implications, or indeed why I used WBC as the body issuing such a suggestion. Of course WBC wouldn't announce an attack, but they would give advice and instruction to public event promoters, that's their job. There is no point in explaining any further.

We are presently remembering what happened 100 years ago at the moment. When the press was reporting that German soldiers were bayoneting babies and cutting breasts off women and so inflaming the same passions. They weren't following any religious belief; but simply wanted to expand their nation.

We like to think we are now immune to jingoism, clearly that's not the case..


A 100 years ago we didn't have the news sources we have today. The population didn't have access to the media outlets that are now available.


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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jan 16 2016, 10:58 AM) *
A 100 years ago we didn't have the news sources we have today. The population didn't have access to the media outlets that are now available.


We have far more media delivery but ironically rather fewer disinterested reporters.



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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 16 2016, 01:13 PM) *
We have far more media delivery but ironically rather fewer disinterested reporters.


Perhaps we should be looking at the alternatives. No one ever said that you only get news credibility from 'official' media outlets.
Since when did a business based on historical paper get preferential attention?
Just look up and listen in it's entirety, the video by a 16 year old girl from Germany.

Bibi Wilhailm

Yeah Yeah Yeah, you chose a source to back up your argument I hear, but we all do that.
Yes. One example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1gQutr8qy4

I suggest, if you are to respond to my post, you find alternatives to counter.


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post Jan 23 2016, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jan 23 2016, 02:00 AM) *
Perhaps we should be looking at the alternatives. No one ever said that you only get news credibility from 'official' media outlets.
Since when did a business based on historical paper get preferential attention?
Just look up and listen in it's entirety, the video by a 16 year old girl from Germany.

Bibi Wilhailm

Yeah Yeah Yeah, you chose a source to back up your argument I hear, but we all do that.
Yes. One example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1gQutr8qy4

I suggest, if you are to respond to my post, you find alternatives to counter.

The uncorroborated testimony of a fifteen year old is hardly something to build an argument on, and while the child may genuinely fear Islamic foreigners that's not evidence of anything other than the child's fear.

And as you asked for counter-examples, here's one from today's NewburyToday - a Thatcham man up in court for attacking people outside a Newbury pub. That might be enough to reinforce a fear of people from Thatcham in some of the more delicate denizens of this fair parish.


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