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post Apr 17 2019, 05:59 AM
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post Apr 17 2019, 08:49 AM
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2 in the same. Both causing division and hatred.
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post Apr 17 2019, 09:09 AM
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https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-how-...migrant-footage
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post Apr 17 2019, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 10:09 AM) *

Channel 4... with Jon "I've never seen so many white people" Snow. That Channel 4? Oh and as for Lammy he plays the race card every day on Twitter. This is a man who thinks no black people should be stopped and searched as it is "racist"...
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post Apr 17 2019, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 17 2019, 10:22 AM) *
Channel 4... with Jon "I've never seen so many white people" Snow. That Channel 4? Oh and as for Lammy he plays the race card every day on Twitter. This is a man who thinks no black people should be stopped and searched as it is "racist"...

So they made it up? rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 17 2019, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 10:45 AM) *
So they made it up? rolleyes.gif

No... but as I said. Lammy is just as bad as the ERG. If you call the ERG "nazis" you are making it the norm. The term "nazis" refers to the Nationalist Socialist Party of 1930s and 40s Germany. This group of nutters killed millions of people. I don't think JRM and co are on the same planet, let alone ballpark. It's dangerous sensational claptrap from Lammy and he knows it. The problem is what would he call real nazis if they came along? Nasty Nazis? Don't sensationalise. You need the term Nazi for that very thing and not just a broad spectrum of people on the right of politics.
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post Apr 17 2019, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 10:45 AM) *
So they made it up? rolleyes.gif

I'd also add that by the same logic you could call JC a Stalinist (and he killed more than the Nazis)...it's just a crock of sh1t.
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post Apr 17 2019, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 17 2019, 12:45 PM) *
No... but as I said. Lammy is just as bad as the ERG. If you call the ERG "nazis" you are making it the norm. The term "nazis" refers to the Nationalist Socialist Party of 1930s and 40s Germany. This group of nutters killed millions of people. I don't think JRM and co are on the same planet, let alone ballpark. It's dangerous sensational claptrap from Lammy and he knows it. The problem is what would he call real nazis if they came along? Nasty Nazis? Don't sensationalise. You need the term Nazi for that very thing and not just a broad spectrum of people on the right of politics.

No. The Nazi party didn't just start with 6,000,000 Jews. They were elected and practically mainstream. The right is led by the likes o Rees Mogg, Farage, Bojo and so on. Not far removed are UKIP and Yaxley Lennon. Islamophobia is rife in the Tory Party and don't forget, in general Muslim is just "Pakis" relabelled. I think Lammy is nearer the truth than you accept.
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post Apr 17 2019, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 01:32 PM) *
No. The Nazi party didn't just start with 6,000,000 Jews. They were elected and practically mainstream. The right is led by the likes o Rees Mogg, Farage, Bojo and so on. Not far removed are UKIP and Yaxley Lennon. Islamophobia is rife in the Tory Party and don't forget, in general Muslim is just "Pakis" relabelled. I think Lammy is nearer the truth than you accept.

What a load of old tosh. Ok.. guess that means JC will be opening gulags in the Outer Hebrides. Same comparison.
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post Apr 17 2019, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 01:32 PM) *
No. The Nazi party didn't just start with 6,000,000 Jews. They were elected and practically mainstream. The right is led by the likes o Rees Mogg, Farage, Bojo and so on. Not far removed are UKIP and Yaxley Lennon. Islamophobia is rife in the Tory Party and don't forget, in general Muslim is just "Pakis" relabelled. I think Lammy is nearer the truth than you accept.


I'd also add that Labour seem far closer to the Nazi party given there proven anti semitism...
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post Apr 17 2019, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 17 2019, 01:46 PM) *
I'd also add that Labour seem far closer to the Nazi party given there proven anti semitism...

It isn't proven at all. I think it's fair to say that Corbyn and Labour is pro Palestinian, but that doesn't make him an anti Semite. It's mostly invented. Can you imagine Corbyn making fun of the attire of Hassidic Jews? I don't think there's any doubt though that the Tories are Islamophobic.

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/02/17/s...y-islamophobia/
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post Apr 17 2019, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 02:13 PM) *
It isn't proven at all. I think it's fair to say that Corbyn and Labour is pro Palestinian, but that doesn't make him an anti Semite. It's mostly invented. Can you imagine Corbyn making fun of the attire of Hassidic Jews? I don't think there's any doubt though that the Tories are Islamophobic.

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/02/17/s...y-islamophobia/


You managed to find something on the islamist "hopenothate" website from February. Here is a Labour MP being antisemitic on the BBC website yesterday...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47952275

Oh dear...how sad.. never mind... bet you loved Windsor Davies. 🤣😂
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post Apr 17 2019, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 17 2019, 03:03 PM) *
You managed to find something on the islamist "hopenothate" website from February. Here is a Labour MP being antisemitic on the BBC website yesterday...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47952275

Oh dear...how sad.. never mind... bet you loved Windsor Davies. 🤣😂

He's a **** isn't he? And a liar. Don't forget also the two Brexit party founders forced to resign. I don't think Labour are remotely anti Semitic any more than the Tories are Islamophiles for their support for Saudi Arabia or Brunei.
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post Apr 17 2019, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 03:45 PM) *
He's a **** isn't he? And a liar. Don't forget also the two Brexit party founders forced to resign. I don't think Labour are remotely anti Semitic any more than the Tories are Islamophiles for their support for Saudi Arabia or Brunei.



Who Windsor Davies?


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post Apr 17 2019, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Apr 17 2019, 07:15 PM) *
Who Windsor Davies?

Oh dear how sad never mind... 🤣
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post Apr 17 2019, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Apr 17 2019, 07:15 PM) *
Who Windsor Davies?

Recently departed. Not sure of your ages, but It Ain't Half Hot Mum was a classic of my childhood. That & Citizen Smith (no surprises there) were my favourite sitcoms I think.
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post Apr 18 2019, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 17 2019, 07:28 PM) *
Recently departed. Not sure of your ages, but It Ain't Half Hot Mum was a classic of my childhood. That & Citizen Smith (no surprises there) were my favourite sitcoms I think.

Difficult to beat Porridge for sitcoms.
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post Apr 19 2019, 05:34 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 19 2019, 12:49 AM) *
Difficult to beat Porridge for sitcoms.

True, but it’s more to do with association I think rather than a quality thing.
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post Apr 19 2019, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 19 2019, 06:34 AM) *
True, but it’s more to do with association I think rather than a quality thing.


Certainly a golden age for television comedy. Not a lot at present to compete though I did enjoy "Fleabag".


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post Apr 19 2019, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Apr 19 2019, 04:34 PM) *
Certainly a golden age for television comedy. Not a lot at present to compete though I did enjoy "Fleabag".

The recent Ricky Gervais one was excellent.
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