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Andy Capp
post Dec 14 2011, 03:31 AM
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It would seem that Joseph Mallord William Turner, a world famous Romantic landscape painter, painted Donnington Castle. I have never heard of this before. I understand that William Turner of Oxford (a different Turner than the one famous for painting 'The Fighting Temeraire') painted a very similar picture to that listed at Dreweatts.

Are there any art gurus on this forum that could confirm whether the picture is a legitimate JMW Turner, or not? I have a feeling a mistake has been made.


Turner's Donnington Castle painting up at auction



Donnington Castle, taken from a Field adjoining the Road to East Ilsley, from Newbury - by William Turner of Oxford
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post Dec 14 2011, 07:51 AM
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If that picture is actually the one being sold, then I can assure you that Trading Standards should be called in.

The Oxford William Turner is not the same as J.M.W. Turner.

The second picture is a coloured engraving taken from the first.

Are Drewetts claiming that it is by JMWT or is that just an assumption by the NWN and the story allowed to go out unchecked by the auction house to drum up interest?

What's that I hear you say? Skullduggery in the art world? The NWN not knowing what it's doing? Which do you think is most likely?

Actually, thinking about it, it could be either couldn't it?

Good spot Mr Capp.

Expect this story to be changed as the day goes on.
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- Andy Capp   Turner painting of Donnington to be auctioned   Dec 14 2011, 03:31 AM
- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Dec 14 2011,...   Dec 14 2011, 09:35 AM
|- - admin   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 14 2011, 09:35 AM)...   Dec 14 2011, 09:48 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (admin @ Dec 14 2011, 09:48 AM) Mor...   Dec 14 2011, 10:15 AM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 14 2011, 10:15 AM)...   Dec 14 2011, 10:53 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 14 2011, 10:53 AM) How...   Dec 14 2011, 11:08 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 14 2011, 10:53 AM) How...   Dec 14 2011, 11:08 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 14 2011, 11:08 A...   Dec 14 2011, 11:20 AM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 14 2011, 11:08 A...   Dec 14 2011, 12:43 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 14 2011, 12:43 PM) And...   Dec 14 2011, 12:52 PM
|- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Interesting that there is no Castle called Donning...   Dec 14 2011, 01:15 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Dec 14 2011,...   Dec 14 2011, 01:27 PM
- - Simon Kirby   Government Art Collection says Andy Capp is right....   Dec 14 2011, 10:00 AM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   There is certainly no mention of Donnington on thi...   Dec 14 2011, 12:42 PM
- - NWNREADER   Does this help? Note the comment 'currently u...   Dec 14 2011, 01:30 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Dec 14 2011, 01:30 PM)...   Dec 14 2011, 01:34 PM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Except that we know Sothebys had it in 1999. (If i...   Dec 14 2011, 01:36 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Dodgys smarter brother. @ Dec 14 2011,...   Dec 14 2011, 01:37 PM
- - Simon Kirby   I'm wondering if JMW Turner painted the origin...   Dec 14 2011, 04:16 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 14 2011, 04:16 P...   Dec 14 2011, 04:57 PM
- - IanB   Interesting speculation. If there is an error som...   Dec 14 2011, 05:42 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (IanB @ Dec 14 2011, 05:42 PM) Inte...   Dec 14 2011, 06:05 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (IanB @ Dec 14 2011, 05:42 PM) Inte...   Dec 14 2011, 07:53 PM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   There is always the possibility that someone, some...   Dec 14 2011, 06:54 PM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Stand down. It didn't sell. That it was a T...   Dec 15 2011, 07:26 AM
- - Nothing Much   Bit of excitement there. I thought I would mentio...   Dec 15 2011, 12:01 PM
- - Nothing Much   Sorry . Silly repeat posting   Dec 15 2011, 12:03 PM
- - Simon Kirby   I've received a very nice response from the Go...   Dec 15 2011, 12:06 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Dec 15 2011, 12:06 P...   Dec 15 2011, 12:33 PM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   So all we have to do now is get the picture of the...   Dec 15 2011, 01:36 PM


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