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Newbury Today Forum _ Newbury News _ 40th anniversary of Greenham Common women's peace camp: series of events to be held this weekend

Posted by: Phil_D11102 Sep 6 2021, 07:51 AM

Did anyone else go up to the Tower this weekend.

A couple of observations:

1. The ladies didn't wear masks, and social distancing did not apply.
2. Again, the Tower tried, but it was pretty one sided.
3. The women are terrible at remembering history, and the truth of what happened.
4. They don't wish to debate, and if you try you get shouted down and asked to leave a public area.
5. Can try to intimidate you.

I guess if you keep telling the same story all the time it will sound like the truth.

Posted by: Mr Brown Sep 8 2021, 01:04 PM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Sep 6 2021, 08:51 AM) *
Did anyone else go up to the Tower this weekend.

A couple of observations:

1. The ladies didn't wear masks, and social distancing did not apply.
2. Again, the Tower tried, but it was pretty one sided.
3. The women are terrible at remembering history, and the truth of what happened.
4. They don't wish to debate, and if you try you get shouted down and asked to leave a public area.
5. Can try to intimidate you.
Ed
I guess if you keep telling the same story all the time it will sound like the truth.


What’s the real beef? I suspect if you hadn’t been served up a faux history you would probably have had an enjoyable time and suggesting we should all go and support this local attraction. Fully appreciate your discomfort; it seems to be an age penalty when going round these places the modern historic narrative is often at odds with your own real memories of the time.

Posted by: Mr Brown Sep 8 2021, 01:04 PM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Sep 6 2021, 08:51 AM) *
Did anyone else go up to the Tower this weekend.

A couple of observations:

1. The ladies didn't wear masks, and social distancing did not apply.
2. Again, the Tower tried, but it was pretty one sided.
3. The women are terrible at remembering history, and the truth of what happened.
4. They don't wish to debate, and if you try you get shouted down and asked to leave a public area.
5. Can try to intimidate you.
Ed
I guess if you keep telling the same story all the time it will sound like the truth.


What’s the real beef? I suspect if you hadn’t been served up a faux history you would probably have had an enjoyable time and suggesting we should all go and support this local attraction. Fully appreciate your discomfort; it seems to be an age penalty when going round these places the modern historic narrative is often at odds with your own real memories of the time.

Posted by: Phil_D11102 Sep 8 2021, 04:49 PM

QUOTE (Mr Brown @ Sep 8 2021, 02:04 PM) *
What’s the real beef? I suspect if you hadn’t been served up a faux history you would probably have had an enjoyable time and suggesting we should all go and support this local attraction. Fully appreciate your discomfort; it seems to be an age penalty when going round these places the modern historic narrative is often at odds with your own real memories of the time.


What is my beef, well...

Hearing bull**** stories about when the cruise would deploy, and how the women would paint peace symbols made of paint and porridge on the windscreens of the vehicles when the travelled at 5 mph or less.

When I said that that was not true, what they actually did was throw stuff at the moving vehicles I first heard yes it was, but then another person said no, one time someone did throw a object filled with paint from a bridge, but it never happened again.

When I said it wasn't true, they asked what proof did I have. I said the USAF, as I seen it myself. Before I can say that at two events during the 20th anniversary of the Greenham Trust several other women said they liked to "mark" the vehicles.

I was shouted down, asked to leave a public event, and was told that we didn't want you American's back when the base was opened, and we don't want you hear now. So much for public event..

I would like to post images of "marked" vehicles, but I cannot do so here.

Shame the modern historical narrative came from the women who actually threw the balloons, then deny it happened.


Posted by: newres Sep 11 2021, 11:26 AM

QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Sep 8 2021, 05:49 PM) *
What is my beef, well...

Hearing bull**** stories about when the cruise would deploy, and how the women would paint peace symbols made of paint and porridge on the windscreens of the vehicles when the travelled at 5 mph or less.

When I said that that was not true, what they actually did was throw stuff at the moving vehicles I first heard yes it was, but then another person said no, one time someone did throw a object filled with paint from a bridge, but it never happened again.

When I said it wasn't true, they asked what proof did I have. I said the USAF, as I seen it myself. Before I can say that at two events during the 20th anniversary of the Greenham Trust several other women said they liked to "mark" the vehicles.

I was shouted down, asked to leave a public event, and was told that we didn't want you American's back when the base was opened, and we don't want you hear now. So much for public event..

I would like to post images of "marked" vehicles, but I cannot do so here.

Shame the modern historical narrative came from the women who actually threw the balloons, then deny it happened.

These women were there too though weren't they? Who's to say eho's memory is correct? I have an old friend who worked there & his phrase at the time for the peace women was "pond life".

Posted by: Strafin Oct 3 2021, 09:15 AM

I think you are very passionate about your experiences and I am not suggesting at all that your perception is wrong, however at an event that is particularly about one side of the argument, you can't expect to be able to voice your individual and minority recollections. You are clearly going to have a biased view and this was probably not the time to share it.

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