What do the LibDems actjually stand for?, Is it simply power at any cost? Options

[Richard Garvie]

He claims he was asked to not stand candidates in labour target wards. What actually was suggested is that labour didn't stand candidates against people like the greens and independents so we weren't competing in the same wards. There are forum posts on this subject too.

[Adrian Hollister]

Not quite true Adrian. I appoached all the independents and smaller parties to try and work together to avoid competing for same seats. I suppose you should maybe go and read the emails we exchanged at the time and correct your post.

Ok, it's worse, you suggested that you wouldn't stand in other parties key areas either.

Such is the desperation of some to force themselves on other people.

The goal of 'power' does seem to flirt immortality at all levels.

[Adrian Hollister]

Actually you should read back to what I said. I didn't say it is what I believe in but the nature of our political system. Actually I am against PR as it causes the problems that have been highlighted. Coalition is just another form of PR (created by circumstances).

I stand corrected

[NWNREADER]

He claims he was asked to not stand candidates in labour target wards. What actually was suggested is that labour didn't stand candidates against people like the greens and independents so we weren't competing in the same wards. There are forum posts on this subject too.

Any 'agreement' about where to put forward candidates is corrupting.

Part of the reason for your suggestion is you had too few candidates to go round?

[Adrian Hollister]

Any 'agreement' about where to put forward candidates is corrupting.

Agree

Part of the reason for your suggestion is you had too few candidates to go round?

That was not discussed, quite the opposite.

[Jo Pepper]

Any 'agreement' about where to put forward candidates is corrupting.

Are there no rules to prevent this? It sounds very dodgy.

[blackdog]

Are there no rules to prevent this? It sounds very dodgy.

Party politics is dodgy full stop. If you think about it, the idea of like minded people agreeing not to compete for a seat is what political parties are all about.

[NWNREADER]

That was not discussed, quite the opposite.

'Twas a question , and aimed at RG

[Jo Pepper]

Looks like RG has retreated, perhaps embarassed by his dodgy politics. Lib Dems seem desperate around here, so I'm sure they will be happy to take on damaged goods.

[Richard Garvie]

Far from it. Just been busy the last few days, and observing the posts.

[Ruwan Uduwerage-...]

Lib Dems seem desperate around here

What would make anyone think this?

[Cognosco]

What would make anyone think this?

Not only round here but nationally - by getting into bed with the Conservatives and enabling the decimation of our NHS and reneging on most of their manifesto policies I would like to think they will be decimated in any future elections.
The only problem is the average voter has no other party to vote for. All politicians are now held in such low esteem I seriously worry for our future unless there is a rapid change of thinking on the political front.

[On the edge]

What would make anyone think this?

Err last week's NWN - apparently in discussion with arch socialist Richard G to change his spots and stand in their interest at next general election?

Dave R saying he's stepping down as candidate because he couldn't stand for both Council and Parliament. Presumably, couldn't be spared from Council if by some miracle he was elected MP again. So little talent locally he can't be spared then!

In a bit of a pickle aren't they, no satisfactory parliamentary candidate and no adequate succession plan for Mr R, - who is now touching retirement age. Then nationally, coalition clearly ain't going well and not worth repeating. As ably demonstrated by dear old Vince making up to the young Milliband.

Yesterday's party!

[On the edge]

Have just read this weeks NWN. Loved the whitewash! Apparently there wasn't a plot to unseat Dave - everyone had that wrong. Plot? what plot - no one had mentioned a plot up 'till now. Anyway, they couldn't have made Richard G the candidate because its against the rules. So that's all right then. Such nice people - Garvey is better off on his own!

[Jo Pepper]

Sounds like RG has been playing the politics and is desperate for attention. First off corruption putting forward candidates and trying to rig an election and now he looks like he involved flirting with another political party.

Who know's what on earth he is standing for or about (oh hang on - it's all about himself and raw power).

Labour in West Berks is a tiny party but they all must be very embarrased. This is the sort of dodgy stuff that gives politics a bad name.

[Spider]

I have thought about voting Lib Dem's but I am not too sure now. Living in Newbury you've only got the Lib Dems and the Tories.

[On the edge]

Sounds like RG has been playing the politics and is desperate for attention. First off corruption putting forward candidates and trying to rig an election and now he looks like he involved flirting with another political party.

Who know's what on earth he is standing for or about (oh hang on - it's all about himself and raw power).

Labour in West Berks is a tiny party but they all must be very embarrased. This is the sort of dodgy stuff that gives politics a bad name.

The press reports suggest it was the LibDems who made the overtures in the first place. Granted, they may have the story wrong. That he didn't play and made it all public does seem to have embarrassed the loveable LibDems and their erstwhile MP!

Dodgy politics, interesting one that, they often forget some of us have very long memories.

[Cognosco]

I have thought about voting Lib Dem's but I am not too sure now. Living in Newbury you've only got the Lib Dems and the Tories.

Exactly! As I have stated before people only vote to keep the worst one out of power not because they want the other one necessarily?

It's a case of do you want to be shafted by A or B really!

[Adrian Hollister]

I have thought about voting Lib Dem's but I am not too sure now. Living in Newbury you've only got the Lib Dems and the Tories.

Don't bet on it - the Greens are as large if not larger in Berkshire than New Labour. If your fed up with the blue and yellow Tories then just vote green!

[NWNREADER]

Don't bet on it - the Greens are as large if not larger in Berkshire than New Labour. If your fed up with the blue and yellow Tories then just vote green!

Is that a sound reason to vote for a political party?