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post Jun 10 2017, 06:21 AM
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Lessons learned...

1. Leader of party has to be charasmatic
2. Manifesto is important. Juat make some uncosted sh1t up
3. People like free stuff
4. Do not take people for granted
5. Get celebrity "endorsements" from multi millionaire tax evaders like Linekar on twitter and facebook
6. Election is now presidential. Even if you have people that are incompetent in your team this does not matter

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post Jun 10 2017, 04:56 PM
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"Taymiyyah had declared war on Shi’ism, Sufism and Greek philosophy. He spoke out, too against visiting the grave of the prophet and the celebration of his birthday, declaring that all such behavior represented mere imitation of the Christian worship of Jesus as God (i.e. idolatry). Abd al-Wahhab assimilated all this earlier teaching, stating that “any doubt or hesitation” on the part of a believer in respect to his or her acknowledging this particular interpretation of Islam should “deprive a man of immunity of his property and his life.”

One of the main tenets of Abd al-Wahhab’s doctrine has become the key idea of takfir. Under the takfiri doctrine, Abd al-Wahhab and his followers could deem fellow Muslims infidels should they engage in activities that in any way could be said to encroach on the sovereignty of the absolute Authority (that is, the King). Abd al-Wahhab denounced all Muslims who honored the dead, saints, or angels. He held that such sentiments detracted from the complete subservience one must feel towards God, and only God. Wahhabi Islam thus bans any prayer to saints and dead loved ones, pilgrimages to tombs and special mosques, religious festivals celebrating saints, the honoring of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s birthday, and even prohibits the use of gravestones when burying the dead.

Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated, he wrote."


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post Jun 10 2017, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 10 2017, 05:56 PM) *
"Taymiyyah had declared war on Shi’ism, Sufism and Greek philosophy. He spoke out, too against visiting the grave of the prophet and the celebration of his birthday, declaring that all such behavior represented mere imitation of the Christian worship of Jesus as God (i.e. idolatry). Abd al-Wahhab assimilated all this earlier teaching, stating that “any doubt or hesitation” on the part of a believer in respect to his or her acknowledging this particular interpretation of Islam should “deprive a man of immunity of his property and his life.”

One of the main tenets of Abd al-Wahhab’s doctrine has become the key idea of takfir. Under the takfiri doctrine, Abd al-Wahhab and his followers could deem fellow Muslims infidels should they engage in activities that in any way could be said to encroach on the sovereignty of the absolute Authority (that is, the King). Abd al-Wahhab denounced all Muslims who honored the dead, saints, or angels. He held that such sentiments detracted from the complete subservience one must feel towards God, and only God. Wahhabi Islam thus bans any prayer to saints and dead loved ones, pilgrimages to tombs and special mosques, religious festivals celebrating saints, the honoring of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’s birthday, and even prohibits the use of gravestones when burying the dead.

Those who would not conform to this view should be killed, their wives and daughters violated, and their possessions confiscated, he wrote."

Wow! Chilling.
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post Jun 10 2017, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 10 2017, 06:11 PM) *
Wow! Chilling.

However it's all second hand and still nowhere does it say they want to kill me or my family. TDH is a liar.
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post Jun 10 2017, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 08:01 PM) *
However it's all second hand and still nowhere does it say they want to kill me or my family. TDH is a liar.


Can you define why please? Just interested to find out what you think is factually incorrect. RegardsTDH

Note. The lack of Kind Regards.. Just Regards 😂
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post Jun 10 2017, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 08:17 PM) *
Can you define why please? Just interested to find out what you think is factually incorrect. RegardsTDH

Note. The lack of Kind Regards.. Just Regards 😂

I asked for an original source in which it is written by a Wahhabist that they wish to kill all non Muslims. I'm not saying it is a nice sect but you made a dramatic claim that would be likely to cause fear and breed hatred and I'm asking you to back it up with an original modern text produced by this sect that advocates this view.
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post Jun 10 2017, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 08:22 PM) *
I asked for an original source in which it is written by a Wahhabist that they wish to kill all non Muslims. I'm not saying it is a nice sect but you made a dramatic claim that would be likely to cause fear and breed hatred and I'm asking you to back it up with an original modern text produced by this sect that advocates this view.


Yeah. The 6 people on this forum are all cowering in fear at my inflammatory comments. Meanwhile no condemnation from you of someone with 5 million followers advising them to "take power".
Plenty of other people have already qouted on wahhabissm. You are arguing a lost cause my dear friend. Regards TDH
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