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> Facebook. We really should link this forum to it, like it or not., This forum is now a digital dinasaur.
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post Sep 22 2016, 09:50 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/Newburypast...474575914330694

So much more public involvement.

That said. NWN for crying out loud why do you not do your duty and go for it?



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post Sep 22 2016, 10:12 PM
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post Sep 22 2016, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 22 2016, 10:50 PM) *
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Newburypast...474575914330694

So much more public involvement.

That said. NWN for crying out loud why do you not do your duty and go for it?

I guess I agree that a Facebook group would be a better medium to host a debate - it would certaily be superior on mobile where this forum is pants.

However I don't think Newbury has any great intetest in the kind of critical debate we have here. Newbury Past & Present has a lively following but it's very lightweight and tends to respond badly to negativity. There's a Moaners sister page which looked pretty awful when I last looked in a year ago.


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post Sep 23 2016, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Sep 22 2016, 11:12 PM) *
I guess I agree that a Facebook group would be a better medium to host a debate - it would certaily be superior on mobile where this forum is pants.

However I don't think Newbury has any great intetest in the kind of critical debate we have here. Newbury Past & Present has a lively following but it's very lightweight and tends to respond badly to negativity. There's a Moaners sister page which looked pretty awful when I last looked in a year ago.

Both facespace and this forum are pants on mobile, so I challenge the superior tag, but a lot of that is because mobile browsers are pants. The other thing I noticed is that all the complaints about this site exist in farcebook too.

The best thing about the Newbury fartbook pages are the old photos, but any chances of a good debate soon disappear when the swivel eyed, tree huggers and blue rinsers get going.

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post Sep 23 2016, 02:23 AM
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fakebook is more a messageboad than an effective debating medium.
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post Sep 23 2016, 07:27 AM
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It still seems like an ePub debate. The difference between this and Facebook is the difference between saloon bar v public with a couple local FB pages being the car park after closing time.


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post Sep 23 2016, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 23 2016, 03:23 AM) *
fakebook is more a messageboad than an effective debating medium.

Facebook supports an unlimited depth of reply-to-reply and I suggedt that this better supports a debate between multiple people that can take multiple directions. It also directly hosts images and supports embedded content such as youtube and for all these reasons I agree that it is a better medium for discussion.

Do you use the Facebook mobile app? For me it's a reasonable mobile experince though the text-entry field is very small.


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post Sep 23 2016, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Sep 22 2016, 10:50 PM) *
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Newburypast...474575914330694

So much more public involvement.

That said. NWN for crying out loud why do you not do your duty and go for it?

If this happens then I'm off.
No F/B for me.
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post Sep 23 2016, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 23 2016, 08:27 AM) *
It still seems like an ePub debate. The difference between this and Facebook is the difference between saloon bar v public with a couple local FB pages being the car park after closing time.

We may be arguing at cross-purposes. I'm talking about the suitability of the Facebook medium to host a debate and not any particular Facebook Group. I'm not aware of a Facebook Group for Newbury where matters are discussed critically, objectively and relatively civilly as I would suggest they are here.

To be fair I think it's remarkable that we can discuss pretty much anything on here without much more than the odd tiff - this place is a virtual monestary compared to the awfulness of the social-mediaverse in general.


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post Sep 23 2016, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 23 2016, 08:45 AM) *
If this happens then I'm off.
No F/B for me.
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What are you objecting to? You're not obliged to share anything about yourself on Facebook or visit any groups or pages that you don't want to.


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post Sep 23 2016, 08:57 AM
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Debates on Facebook are hard work: no word processing or adaquate quoting tool, comments on Facebook can get quickly lost and it is easy to lose the thread. Although more restrictive, one can insert content on here too, so that isn't much of an issue.

The one thing Facebook has over this is a wider participating audience, but that's it.

I do have the Facebook app, but I don't like it. it is too easy to post to an unintended audience.

As I mentioned earlier, the main hassle with content entry on forums is mobile web browsers are rubbish. Notwithstanding my eyesight ain't what it used to be!
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post Sep 23 2016, 09:20 AM
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Yes, the eyesight thing has caught up with me too!


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post Apr 20 2017, 05:01 AM
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The slow but sure death of the forum continues.
The link has now been removed from the main banner on the NWN home page.
Inevitable I suppose when down to less than a dozen contributors and FB / Google rule the world!.
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post Apr 20 2017, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 20 2017, 06:01 AM) *
The slow but sure death of the forum continues.
The link has now been removed from the main banner on the NWN home page.
Inevitable I suppose when down to less than a dozen contributors and FB / Google rule the world!.


It's actually still there. Where the title 'Property Forum' appear on the top line, click on the actual word 'forum' it opens the link to here.

I suspect it's just an error which happened when someone was tidying the website; but I'd not disagree with your sentiments!


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post Apr 20 2017, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 20 2017, 06:01 AM) *
The slow but sure death of the forum continues.
The link has now been removed from the main banner on the NWN home page.
Inevitable I suppose when down to less than a dozen contributors and FB / Google rule the world!.

It disappears from time to time, but I can see it at the moment.
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post Apr 20 2017, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 20 2017, 07:43 AM) *
It's actually still there. Where the title 'Property Forum' appear on the top line, click on the actual word 'forum' it opens the link to here.

Oh yes I see it now.
Moved from the main blue banner.
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post Apr 20 2017, 07:33 PM
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I see that if you don't use Wastebook, ie registered, that the Newbury page link above, locks you out.
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post Aug 8 2017, 02:12 PM
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I'm not an FB fan unless groups are private ones.
Feel like you're on display there LOL

On the subject of this forum dying....
We'll I've had a bit of trouble even getting on.
I had to email some NWN bods.

Looking at the Members List it 'appears' that all the recent joiners are in a state of 'Validating' newest bar me I saw was 2015. Is that right?

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post Aug 8 2017, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (HOW @ Aug 8 2017, 03:12 PM) *
I'm not an FB fan unless groups are private ones.
Feel like you're on display there LOL

On the subject of this forum dying....
We'll I've had a bit of trouble even getting on.
I had to email some NWN bods.

Looking at the Members List it 'appears' that all the recent joiners are in a state of 'Validating' newest bar me I saw was 2015. Is that right?


I know someone who had exactly the same problem . In the end he just gave up . The cynic may well consider that "higher" forces would like to see it close down.
It does not fit into the social media criteria because there is a degree of anonymity and most of the contributors can compose an opinion without resorting to personal diatribe . ( Well I did say most wink.gif ).


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post Aug 8 2017, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Aug 8 2017, 03:21 PM) *
I know someone who had exactly the same problem . In the end he just gave up . The cynic may well consider that "higher" forces would like to see it close down.
It does not fit into the social media criteria because there is a degree of anonymity and most of the contributors can compose an opinion without resorting to personal diatribe . ( Well I did say most wink.gif ).


If the NWN wants to close it they may as well do so - it's dying a slow death as it is.
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