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May 15 2012, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 15 2012, 10:12 PM) I'm not dismissing it. Just saying that one of the fundamental reasons that the USA works as a united states is the unity of language.
Despite the huge influs of immigrants in the 1900s, English is still the language of the USA. US English is the dominant language of the US. But, in the last 3 business trips I have made to California, I have noticed how many more TV channels are in Spanish. If unity of language is so important, then why can't we have it in EU politics - so as to stop the hundreds of millions of Euros spent on translation!
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May 15 2012, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 15 2012, 10:36 PM) US English is the dominant language of the US.
But, in the last 3 business trips I have made to California, I have noticed how many more TV channels are in Spanish.
If unity of language is so important, then why can't we have it in EU politics - so as to stop the hundreds of millions of Euros spent on translation! Cheaper to translate it than to teach it.
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May 15 2012, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 15 2012, 10:36 PM) US English is the dominant language of the US.
But, in the last 3 business trips I have made to California, I have noticed how many more TV channels are in Spanish.
If unity of language is so important, then why can't we have it in EU politics - so as to stop the hundreds of millions of Euros spent on translation! because we have 2000 years of doing things our own way & the Americnas have barley 200 years of doing things together, little differences apart.
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May 15 2012, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 15 2012, 10:39 PM) because we have 2000 years of doing things our own way & the Americnas have barley 200 years of doing things together, little differences apart. So, going back to my original point, a common currency in Europe is not the same as in the US because of different history.
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May 16 2012, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 15 2012, 10:44 PM) So, going back to my original point, a common currency in Europe is not the same as in the US because of different history. Language & History go hand in hand.
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May 17 2012, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 16 2012, 11:11 AM) Language & History go hand in hand. History has an impact on currencies too. The US Dollar is a strong currency, the Euro now looks like a mistake.
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May 18 2012, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 17 2012, 09:14 PM) Just a shame he never had an economic compass. He's the one who kept us out of Europe for all those years. That was a bad thing was it?
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May 18 2012, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ May 18 2012, 08:39 AM) He's the one who kept us out of Europe for all those years. That was a bad thing was it? Cack - He'd have had us in the EURO if he thought he'd of won a referendum. He knew the British people would have told him to naff off. This whole crisis has the 1930s written all over it. "When nations are strong, they are not always just and when they wish to be just, they are no longer strong." Winston Churchill
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May 18 2012, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ May 18 2012, 08:39 AM) He's the one who kept us out of Europe for all those years. That was a bad thing was it? We are, last time I looked, most definately in Europe (and in the EU). If you are referring to the Euro currency, it was the British public (mostly right of centre) that "kept us out".
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May 18 2012, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 18 2012, 08:50 AM) Cack - He'd have had us in the EURO if he thought he'd of won a referendum. He knew the British people would have told him to naff off. This whole crisis has the 1930s written all over it Funny how you always hark back to the 1930's Them was the days huh? QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 18 2012, 08:50 AM) We are, last time I looked, most definately in Europe (and in the EU). I suspect you mean 'definitely'. QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 18 2012, 08:50 AM) Iit was the British public (mostly right of centre) that "kept us out". When were we asked then? Do not enter if you have a closed mind.
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May 18 2012, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ May 18 2012, 09:41 AM) I suspect you mean 'definitely'.
When were we asked then? Sorry for the typo - may I point out there was one in your post as well... Back on topic: Public opinon was clear that the UK should not join the Euro - repeated opinion polls confirmed that.
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May 19 2012, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 18 2012, 08:50 AM) Cack - He'd have had us in the EURO if he thought he'd of won a referendum. He knew the British people would have told him to naff off. This whole crisis has the 1930s written all over it.
"When nations are strong, they are not always just and when they wish to be just, they are no longer strong." Winston Churchill Are we talking about the same referendum that the tories made a pledge about on the husting and the lib dems had in their manifesto?
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May 19 2012, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ May 19 2012, 03:20 PM) Are we talking about the same referendum that the tories made a pledge about on the husting and the lib dems had in their manifesto? That's the very one.
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May 19 2012, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ May 19 2012, 04:36 PM) That's the very one. I thought the referendum that the Tories ducked was about the Lisbon Treaty (greater integration) - not really about us joining the Euro, which is what I thought TDH's post was on about?
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May 19 2012, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 15 2012, 09:38 PM) Notwithstanding, they achieved their sovereignty at our expense! And repaid that debt several-fold when they saved our **** (or should that be ***) in the second world war.
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Right an injustice - give Simon Kirby his allotment back!
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