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post Nov 5 2018, 05:09 PM
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1040884/j...xplain-data/amp

Yup, been making it up all the time. Surprised? Not really.
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post Nov 5 2018, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 5 2018, 05:09 PM) *
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1040884/j...xplain-data/amp

Yup, been making it up all the time. Surprised? Not really.


What I find of greater concern is that those who believe his rhetoric are allowed to vote. But there again would you buy a used car off any of the others? cool.gif


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post Nov 5 2018, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 5 2018, 07:03 PM) *
What I find of greater concern is that those who believe his rhetoric are allowed to vote. But there again would you buy a used car off any of the others? cool.gif

People like Walter you mean.
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post Nov 5 2018, 09:53 PM
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Penultimate paragraph in the report is telling. Do we dare wonder why no noise about Tory ministers. Methinks credibility of Express reporting shot - the Poundland Daily Mail!


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post Nov 5 2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 5 2018, 10:53 PM) *
Penultimate paragraph in the report is telling. Do we dare wonder why no noise about Tory ministers. Methinks credibility of Express reporting shot - the Poundland Daily Mail!



Coincidentally, the first paragraph has obviously not been proof read.

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chiefs have written to the Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonell to demand they send their aides for a meeting on the misuse of data after concerns the Labour party is making extraordinary claims with little evidence or proof.

Statistics, please don't shout at me.

The?

What does evidence not prove what proof does?

If that was on a paper copy of a CV, it would start the next barbecue.


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post Nov 5 2018, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Nov 5 2018, 10:21 PM) *
Coincidentally, the first paragraph has obviously not been proof read.

STATISTICS
chiefs have written to the Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonell to demand they send their aides for a meeting on the misuse of data after concerns the Labour party is making extraordinary claims with little evidence or proof.

Statistics, please don't shout at me.

The?

What does evidence not prove what proof does?

If that was on a paper copy of a CV, it would start the next barbecue.

Evidence is not necessarily proof. Proof is usually emphatic. Where as evidence is often a constituent of proof.
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post Nov 6 2018, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 6 2018, 12:00 AM) *
Evidence is not necessarily proof. Proof is usually emphatic. Where as evidence is often a constituent of proof.



Here is the evidence that proves, IE is proof of the accusation.


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post Nov 6 2018, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Nov 6 2018, 12:41 AM) *
Here is the evidence that proves, IE is proof of the accusation.

I don’t get it.
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post Nov 6 2018, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 5 2018, 05:09 PM) *
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1040884/j...xplain-data/amp

Yup, been making it up all the time. Surprised? Not really.

That isn't what the story says though. Misrepresentation in theory is very different to "making it up".
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post Dec 19 2018, 05:04 PM
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JC left looking like the petulant, weak excuse of a leader he is today. Meanwhile one of his acolytes may be going down for perversion of justice. Not a good week for grumpy santa.
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post Dec 19 2018, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 19 2018, 05:04 PM) *
JC left looking like the petulant, weak excuse of a leader he is today. Meanwhile one of his acolytes may be going down for perversion of justice. Not a good week for grumpy santa.


With the Tories in complete disarray they still can't land a sucker punch. Little doubt if Labour could find themselves a decent leader they would be in power by next xmas but no one leaps out as electable, so the embarrassment continues. So like his former namesake he may well have to wait 400 years before anyone thinks he is worth taking seriously. cool.gif


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post Dec 20 2018, 07:22 PM
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Did you see today, that towrag who got found guilty of a perversion of justice this week has now been comparing herself to Jesus. No shame, no shame at all. But then she is a lefty.
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post Dec 20 2018, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 20 2018, 07:22 PM) *
Did you see today, that towrag who got found guilty of a perversion of justice this week has now been comparing herself to Jesus. No shame, no shame at all. But then she is a lefty.


"Lefty" is not the first adjective that comes to mind. rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 21 2018, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 19 2018, 07:02 PM) *
With the Tories in complete disarray they still can't land a sucker punch. Little doubt if Labour could find themselves a decent leader they would be in power by next xmas but no one leaps out as electable, so the embarrassment continues. So like his former namesake he may well have to wait 400 years before anyone thinks he is worth taking seriously. cool.gif

I don’t think he said woman. If he did, rather than lie I’m pretty sure he would have apologised for any offence and pointed out that calling someone a “stupid woman” is no more sexist than calling someone a “stupid man”. As far as I’m aware “woman” isn’t derogatory.

And by the way, I’d love to see him replaced with someone effective.
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post Dec 21 2018, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Dec 21 2018, 07:12 AM) *
I don’t think he said woman. If he did, rather than lie I’m pretty sure he would have apologised for any offence and pointed out that calling someone a “stupid woman” is no more sexist than calling someone a “stupid man”. As far as I’m aware “woman” isn’t derogatory.

And by the way, I’d love to see him replaced with someone effective.

But it is misogynistic, something else he says should not be allowed. So 1, he was misogynistic and 2, he's lying about it.
And a number of lip readers have confirmed he said it
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post Dec 21 2018, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Dec 21 2018, 08:18 AM) *
But it is misogynistic, something else he says should not be allowed. So 1, he was misogynistic and 2, he's lying about it.
And a number of lip readers have confirmed he said it


When I first saw the clip I was convinced he said people, as any ventriloquist will tell you words starting with P and B are difficult to say without lip movement and his lips did seem to purse "people". I am not going to argue with professional lip readers, but the point is that is the argument over the use of "stupid" or "woman"? I am sure a lot worse has been said in the Commons so I fail to see what all the fuss is over apart from highlighting a rattled leader. Whatever your political persuasion you have to admit she has become a liability to the Country and needs to be replaced.
Who by?.......Now that really is a question. rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 21 2018, 09:22 AM
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I thought the best bit was the look on his face, sort of a cross between petulant baby and a smacked ****! Hilarious!
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post Dec 21 2018, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Dec 21 2018, 08:47 AM) *
When I first saw the clip I was convinced he said people, as any ventriloquist will tell you words starting with P and B are difficult to say without lip movement and his lips did seem to purse "people". I am not going to argue with professional lip readers, but the point is that is the argument over the use of "stupid" or "woman"? I am sure a lot worse has been said in the Commons so I fail to see what all the fuss is over apart from highlighting a rattled leader. Whatever your political persuasion you have to admit she has become a liability to the Country and needs to be replaced.
Who by?.......Now that really is a question. rolleyes.gif

If he did indeed lie in parliament, I’d say it is unpardonable. I genuinely don’t think he did, but as a remainer I’d love to see the back of Corbyn.
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post Dec 21 2018, 03:36 PM
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If he did indeed lie in parliament, I’d say it is unpardonable. I genuinely don’t think he did, but as a remainer I’d love to see the back of Corbyn.

Who is your remainers of choice to lead the communist, sorry Labour party? Starmer?
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post Dec 21 2018, 07:14 PM
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Who is your remainers of choice to lead the communist, sorry Labour party? Starmer?

ABC. Anyone but Corbyn. I’m not too bothered and am not too interested in party politics.
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