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post Jun 10 2017, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 10 2017, 11:54 AM) *
Yes, but you Tory boys have done that. Stuffed the Country by selling absolutely everything.

I think Gordon got ahead of that particular game a wee while back by selling the gold reserves at knock down prices.

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Spot on; like the lie they used to believe about success in life was via a University degree followed by a career with a good firm who paid you enough to buy a reasonably decent home and a fair pension when you retire

Yeah, fell for that one didn't they!
Once upon a time University degrees were something to aspire to for the top academically gifted percentage. Now it's just seen by a huge percentage of less academically gifted as being a natural progression from school A Levels, where E is counted as a pass and can get you a place at a converted Poly during the clearing process.. I mean ANY Uni is better than NO Uni right? You can still get pissed at Southampton Solent Uni right?
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post Jun 10 2017, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 10 2017, 12:31 PM) *
I think Gordon got ahead of that particular game a wee while back by selling the gold reserves at knock down prices.

Once upon a time University degrees were something to aspire to for the top academically gifted percentage. Now it's just seen by a huge percentage of less academically gifted as being a natural progression from school A Levels, where E is counted as a pass and can get you a place at a converted Poly during the clearing process.. I mean ANY Uni is better than NO Uni right? You can still get pissed at Southampton Solent Uni right?


Don't forget the gap year. Its my uman right.
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post Jun 10 2017, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 10 2017, 12:31 PM) *
I think Gordon got ahead of that particular game a wee while back by selling the gold reserves at knock down prices.

Once upon a time University degrees were something to aspire to for the top academically gifted percentage. Now it's just seen by a huge percentage of less academically gifted as being a natural progression from school A Levels, where E is counted as a pass and can get you a place at a converted Poly during the clearing process.. I mean ANY Uni is better than NO Uni right? You can still get pissed at Southampton Solent Uni right?


Dear old Gordy was simply following the 'let's all be Tory's' trend made fashionable by a certain Mr Blair. He was copying the masters; Messrs Major and Lamont!

It's been a very clever policy to downgrade educational standards to suit potential employment prospects. Clearly, you are absolutely right, we don't need anywhere near the number of graduates we once did. Choking off universities would be as unpopular with Tory voters as the dementure tax; hence slowly slowly catches monkey approach is better. Why on earth do you think separate Grammar schools feature strongly in their manifesto?


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post Jun 10 2017, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 10 2017, 12:31 PM) *
I think Gordon got ahead of that particular game a wee while back by selling the gold reserves at knock down prices.

And plundering pensions.

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Once upon a time University degrees were something to aspire to for the top academically gifted percentage

Or parents of the wealthy.
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post Jun 10 2017, 12:10 PM
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I dare say there wouldn't be a huge resistance to removing or subsidising tuition fees if it was kept to the brightest students doing meaningful degrees, but we're way past that now. A fair number of my son's peer group toddled off to their various Unis to do 'Sports Science' degrees with some dream of being physios at top rugby clubs or such like. The reality is that the nearest they can get to a sports related job is handing out towels at Nuffield...
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post Jun 10 2017, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 10 2017, 01:10 PM) *
I dare say there wouldn't be a huge resistance to removing or subsidising tuition fees if it was kept to the brightest students doing meaningful degrees, but we're way past that now. A fair number of my son's peer group toddled off to their various Unis to do 'Sports Science' degrees with some dream of being physios at top rugby clubs or such like. The reality is that the nearest they can get to a sports related job is handing out towels at Nuffield...


Quite. Why not make some university degrees free that benefit the Country whilst others are fee paying? Happy medium in my book.
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post Jun 10 2017, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 11:42 AM) *
All talk and no trousers. You make me sick. Oh the poor refugees... Yeah I also feel sorry for them but I dont bang on about it cos I dont want them living with me. You want them to be looked after by someone else. Hyp O Cryte.

Think I'll start calling you Lilly. laugh.gif

I wouldn't want YOU living with me, but I wouldn't want you deprived of a home if you were bombed out. Doesn't make me a hypocrite. Silly sausage.
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post Jun 10 2017, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 01:46 PM) *
I wouldn't want YOU living with me, but I wouldn't want you deprived of a home if you were bombed out. Doesn't make me a hypocrite. Silly sausage.


Yep. It does. Actions speak louder than words. You speak these words to make yoirself feel better. Unless you help yourself its just platitudes. Look at me. Am I not wonderful. Sort of chap that does #prayfor hashtags.
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post Jun 10 2017, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 01:57 PM) *
Yep. It does. Actions speak louder than words. You speak these words to make yoirself feel better. Unless you help yourself its just platitudes. Look at me. Am I not wonderful. Sort of chap that does #prayfor hashtags.

I don't do #prayfor but I don't spout hatred either. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 10 2017, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 02:18 PM) *
I don't do #prayfor but I don't spout hatred either. rolleyes.gif


Are you saying anyone on this forum does? If so please give me examples. Enlighten me.
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post Jun 10 2017, 02:03 PM
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Quick question...

When will the first Strike by Unite and co take place?

Emboldened by the GE results I can see the Unions with JC on side causing much misery.


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post Jun 10 2017, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 03:03 PM) *
Quick question...

When will the first Strike by Unite and co take place?

Emboldened by the GE results I can see the Unions with JC on side causing much misery.

I can't do the linky thing but I've already seen the #resist thing doing the rounds from the "Labour's Digital Army" website implying watch this space for news on what to do next under the name Project MAYhem. The plans will become clear and will be shared from tomorrow apparently
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post Jun 10 2017, 03:04 PM
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With a strong and stable government in place we have nothing to worry about.
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post Jun 10 2017, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Jun 10 2017, 03:56 PM) *
I can't do the linky thing but I've already seen the #resist thing doing the rounds from the "Labour's Digital Army" website implying watch this space for news on what to do next under the name Project MAYhem. The plans will become clear and will be shared from tomorrow apparently


Leftists... Replica of DT in the USA coming up. I predict riots.
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post Jun 10 2017, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 02:51 PM) *
Are you saying anyone on this forum does? If so please give me examples. Enlighten me.

Two minutes looking and here's one from you:

"The rise of Wahabism as a popular cult part of Islam is relatively recent and they want to kill us all. Its not difficult. They want YOU dead. They want your family dead. They would cut your head off without a second thought. Good luck making peace with that."

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post Jun 10 2017, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 04:37 PM) *
Two minutes looking and here's one from you:

"The rise of Wahabism as a popular cult part of Islam is relatively recent and they want to kill us all. Its not difficult. They want YOU dead. They want your family dead. They would cut your head off without a second thought. Good luck making peace with that."


Please explain why this is islamophobic and full of hatred???
If thats the best you could find its a poor effort.😂
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post Jun 10 2017, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 04:37 PM) *
Two minutes looking and here's one from you:

"The rise of Wahabism as a popular cult part of Islam is relatively recent and they want to kill us all. Its not difficult. They want YOU dead. They want your family dead. They would cut your head off without a second thought. Good luck making peace with that."

And this is factually wrong where?


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post Jun 10 2017, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 10 2017, 04:52 PM) *
And this is factually wrong where?


In newres world the terrorists are "misunderstood". They need a cuddle from JC and all would be well. You couldn't make it up.
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post Jun 10 2017, 04:19 PM
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post Jun 10 2017, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 10 2017, 04:52 PM) *
And this is factually wrong where?

Where in Wahhabism does it say that it wants me dead? Show me the original source where it is stated that me and my family should be killed. Here in Newbury in 2017.
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