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post Jun 10 2017, 06:21 AM
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Lessons learned...

1. Leader of party has to be charasmatic
2. Manifesto is important. Juat make some uncosted sh1t up
3. People like free stuff
4. Do not take people for granted
5. Get celebrity "endorsements" from multi millionaire tax evaders like Linekar on twitter and facebook
6. Election is now presidential. Even if you have people that are incompetent in your team this does not matter

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Andy Capp
post Jun 10 2017, 06:41 AM
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The opposition have little to lose.
The more people you make poorer, the more people there are to vote against you.
Hunting with hounds is not widely popular.
People don't admire cowards and liars as leaders.
At least half the electorate are thick.
Tories are easy to despise.
Brexit is only marginally more popular than Remain.
Looking and sounding like Thatcher doesn't make you Thatcher.
TV and social media are not to be ignored or treated with contempt.
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post Jun 10 2017, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 07:21 AM) *
Lessons learned...

1. Leader of party has to be charasmatic
2. Manifesto is important. Juat make some uncosted sh1t up
3. People like free stuff
4. Do not take people for granted
5. Get celebrity "endorsements" from multi millionaire tax evaders like Linekar on twitter and facebook
6. Election is now presidential. Even if you have people that are incompetent in your team this does not matter


Do keep up, that's just how Mrs May got into this mess - seriously.

The biggest lesson all three major parties are learning is that your biggest threats and biggest enemies are close and around you.


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post Jun 10 2017, 06:51 AM
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Corbyn is a conviction politician: play the argument, not the man.
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post Jun 10 2017, 07:12 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 10 2017, 07:51 AM) *
Corbyn is a conviction politician: play the argument, not the man.


Running through fields of wheat? Give me a break

She also failed to offer anything other than austerity and misery.
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post Jun 10 2017, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 08:12 AM) *
Running through fields of wheat? Give me a break

She also failed to offer anything other than austerity and misery.

Let's just hope that the result is we remain in the single market one way or another. The election was a good thing for the country. The people have spoken.
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post Jun 10 2017, 08:37 AM
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Snappy slogan, that's the key. Something like; "Corduroy rules", linen drools? Or, "IRA, knowingly misrepresented?" Or they could offer free classes in knitting with cabbage stalks, my favourite would be to join sinn fein, if they win they simply never need to turn up for work!. Offer them new Utopia, say everything is going to be 'new' and 'exciting' oh, and try to slip the words 'social justice' in somewhere. That'll work. My favourite of course is "lie to the many, not the few". Job done.
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post Jun 10 2017, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 10 2017, 09:37 AM) *
Snappy slogan, that's the key. Something like; "Corduroy rules", linen drools? Or, "IRA, knowingly misrepresented?" Or they could offer free classes in knitting with cabbage stalks, my favourite would be to join sinn fein, if they win they simply never need to turn up for work!. Offer them new Utopia, say everything is going to be 'new' and 'exciting' oh, and try to slip the words 'social justice' in somewhere. That'll work. My favourite of course is "lie to the many, not the few". Job done.

Social media, the young will believe any lie if you spread it on Facebook, there's the trick.
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post Jun 10 2017, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 10 2017, 10:16 AM) *
Social media, the young will believe any lie if you spread it on Facebook, there's the trick.

It worked for spreading hatred against refugees. Why not?
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 10 2017, 10:16 AM) *
Social media, the young will believe any lie if you spread it on Facebook, there's the trick.


Spot on; like the lie they used to believe about success in life was via a University degree followed by a career with a good firm who paid you enough to buy a reasonably decent home and a fair pension when you retire

Yeah, fell for that one didn't they!


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post Jun 10 2017, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 08:12 AM) *
Running through fields of wheat? Give me a break

She also failed to offer anything other than austerity and misery.


Whoa TDH, hold on a second, isn't that exactly what you were claiming Jeremy Corbyn was offering you in the run up; so what is it you do want?


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post Jun 10 2017, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 10 2017, 11:03 AM) *
Spot on; like the lie they used to believe about success in life was via a University degree followed by a career with a good firm who paid you enough to buy a reasonably decent home and a fair pension when you retire

Yeah, fell for that one didn't they!

Good firm? Enterprise is to be taxed out of existence. If you've got a company you're rich! That's not allowed. No ambition will be allowed. Everyone will be at the same level and labour intend to set a very low bar. Why go to uni? Get a good job and pay more tax, there's motivation for you!
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 10 2017, 11:09 AM) *
Whoa TDH, hold on a second, isn't that exactly what you were claiming Jeremy Corbyn was offering you in the run up; so what is it you do want?


Its pretty easy to put a manifesto together when you know you cant win. His next one will be interesting.
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 10:56 AM) *
It worked for spreading hatred against refugees. Why not?

You mean the unskilled migrants from Syria with a hatred for the decadent non believers?
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 10:56 AM) *
It worked for spreading hatred against refugees. Why not?

Yawn. Take a couple in then and show them some love. You could make a difference. And you'd be in a better place to preach aboout it.
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 11:18 AM) *
Yawn. Take a couple in then and show them some love. You could make a difference. And you'd be in a better place to preach aboout it.

Will you ever be happy? The Tories "won" the election, you won the Brexit vote, you've got a racist in the White House yet you're still moaning. I pity your poor wife.
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 10 2017, 11:24 AM) *
Will you ever be happy? The Tories "won" the election, you won the Brexit vote, you've got a racist in the White House yet you're still moaning. I pity your poor wife.

All talk and no trousers. You make me sick. Oh the poor refugees... Yeah I also feel sorry for them but I dont bang on about it cos I dont want them living with me. You want them to be looked after by someone else. Hyp O Cryte.

Think I'll start calling you Lilly. laugh.gif
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post Jun 10 2017, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 10 2017, 07:51 AM) *
Corbyn is a conviction politician: play the argument, not the man.

Quite.


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post Jun 10 2017, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 10 2017, 11:14 AM) *
Good firm? Enterprise is to be taxed out of existence. If you've got a company you're rich! That's not allowed. No ambition will be allowed. Everyone will be at the same level and labour intend to set a very low bar. Why go to uni? Get a good job and pay more tax, there's motivation for you!


Yes, but you Tory boys have done that. Stuffed the Country by selling absolutely everything. Few 'brain' jobs in the UK anymore. Even your mate Osbo was running scared in the end, all those comments about 'we've got the jobs now we need to get wages up'. No wonder Cameron said we are the socialists now - all the workers low pay and no prospects.

So, Labour's life long learning makes much sense, as they recover our business, we'll need properly trained workers.

Ambition should be rather more than milking assets you are supposedly stewarding, floating off round the Med and leaving HMG to pick up the pieces.

Sure, that might appeal to a small percentage of the electorate; but then you tend to loose elections!


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post Jun 10 2017, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 10 2017, 11:15 AM) *
Its pretty easy to put a manifesto together when you know you cant win. His next one will be interesting.


Err, it seems to be pretty easy to do one when you think you CAN win too! Again, the next Tory one will be facinating too. Will be,interesting to see what hunting and demrnture tax is called....


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