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> Incident at London Bridge, Why do Abbott and co insist on calling them "Incidents"
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post Jun 4 2017, 07:54 AM
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I log "incidents" with Microsoft.

I'm not a crazed jihadi islamic extremist.

Call it what it is. And don't use this PC cr@p.

Also how many terrorist attacks in frequency does it take to become an insurgency??
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post Jun 4 2017, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2017, 08:54 AM) *
I log "incidents" with Microsoft.

I'm not a crazed jihadi islamic extremist.

Call it what it is. And don't use this PC cr@p.

Also how many terrorist attacks in frequency does it take to become an insurgency??

Obviously the offer of tea, hobnobs and a nice chat may not be working.


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post Jun 4 2017, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 4 2017, 09:48 AM) *
Obviously the offer of tea, hobnobs and a nice chat may not be working.


Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
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post Jun 4 2017, 11:51 AM
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I think TM's speech was an appropriate response. Root and branch.
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post Jun 4 2017, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 4 2017, 12:51 PM) *
I think TM's speech was an appropriate response. Root and branch.


Agreed. This will just continue. You can't negotiate woth people who want to die. Round them up and where evidence is found, get rid. And tell the human rights lawyers to do one.
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post Jun 4 2017, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2017, 01:41 PM) *
Agreed. This will just continue. You can't negotiate woth people who want to die. Round them up and where evidence is found, get rid. And tell the human rights lawyers to do one.


But exactly who are you going to round up? huh.gif Until they, whoever they are, commit some offense then how are you going to detect them it would appear that those that have committed these atrocious acts were actually born in Britain as far as I am aware??

It's the same as saying round up all the burglars but until they have burgled or stating they are going to burgle who are you going to round up. Just wish it was that easy to say round them up and it was that easy to say who "they" are!


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post Jun 4 2017, 03:55 PM
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Although when Corbyn's PM, we'll I'm sure address the foreign policy issues that result in thousands of deaths of Muslims which I'm pretty sure will see the end of these "incidents". You reap what you sow.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 4 2017, 04:55 PM) *
Although when Corbyn's PM, we'll I'm sure address the foreign policy issues that result in thousands of deaths of Muslims which I'm pretty sure will see the end of these "incidents". You reap what you sow.

That's just so silly as to be laughable. When you have Muslims slaughtering other Muslims just because they belong to a different sects and have been for hundreds of years, when they massacre, enslave and rape everybody who is even remotely different in the name of their own perverse ideology I don't see doing nothing as being a terrific tactic.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 4 2017, 05:06 PM) *
That's just so silly as to be laughable. When you have Muslims slaughtering other Muslims just because they belong to a different sects and have been for hundreds of years, when they massacre, enslave and rape everybody who is even remotely different in the name of their own perverse ideology I don't see doing nothing as being a terrific tactic.


Corbyn doesnt even have a shoot to kill policy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-3...-to-kill-policy

In this event many more people would have died.
Newres has been brainwashed. He's barking.

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post Jun 4 2017, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Jun 4 2017, 04:46 PM) *
But exactly who are you going to round up? huh.gif Until they, whoever they are, commit some offense then how are you going to detect them it would appear that those that have committed these atrocious acts were actually born in Britain as far as I am aware??

It's the same as saying round up all the burglars but until they have burgled or stating they are going to burgle who are you going to round up. Just wish it was that easy to say round them up and it was that easy to say who "they" are!


MI5 know who they are and they sure aint burglars. Just so I get this right your solution to the problem is...

1. Get rid of Nuclear weapons
2. Dont interfere in any foreign war no matter what the circumstances
3. Disarm the Police
4.Wait for these poor misunderstood people to tire themselves out killing people before arresting them

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post Jun 4 2017, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2017, 05:10 PM) *
Corbyn doesnt even have a shoot to kill policy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-3...-to-kill-policy

In this event many more people would have died.
Newres has been brainwashed. He's barking.

Not brainwashed, just, wrong. (My own personal view) and your right, it was only the prompt action of armed police that ended the slaughter. The emergency services did a wonderful job, hats off to all who responded.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:19 PM
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 4 2017, 05:06 PM) *
That's just so silly as to be laughable. When you have Muslims slaughtering other Muslims just because they belong to a different sects and have been for hundreds of years, when they massacre, enslave and rape everybody who is even remotely different in the name of their own perverse ideology I don't see doing nothing as being a terrific tactic.

Remind me, did we have Muslim terrorists in the west before the Gulf wars?
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 4 2017, 05:15 PM) *
Not brainwashed, just, wrong. (My own personal view) and your right, it was only the prompt action of armed police that ended the slaughter. The emergency services did a wonderful job, hats off to all who responded.

No one would argue with the action of the police. I'm quite sure JC would fully support what was done.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 4 2017, 05:20 PM) *
Remind me, did we have Muslim terrorists in the west before the Gulf wars?


We had the IRA and we all know Corbyns views on them. And yes the world has changed. It does.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 4 2017, 05:22 PM) *
No one would argue with the action of the police. I'm quite sure JC would fully support what was done.


But he doesnt agree with shoot to kill? Or does he now?
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2017, 05:24 PM) *
We had the IRA and we all know Corbyns views on them. And yes the world has changed. It does.

So before we started invading and slaughtering Muslims they never attacked us. Is there a lesson there? Like the time we declared that we had no political or economic interest in Northern Ireland the IRA stopped attacking us? Weird eh?
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 4 2017, 05:25 PM) *
But he doesnt agree with shoot to kill? Or does he now?

I don't know. I think we need to be very clear about what we mean by it. I'm quite sure that in that example any sane person would agree that it was right to shoot them and preserving their lives was of secondary importance. I think it's a very dangerous thing to give a carte blanche shoot to kill policy. Idiotic actually.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 4 2017, 05:22 PM) *
No one would argue with the action of the police. I'm quite sure JC would fully support what was done.

Except he doesn't, he opposes shoot to kill.
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post Jun 4 2017, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Jun 4 2017, 05:26 PM) *
So before we started invading and slaughtering Muslims they never attacked us. Is there a lesson there? Like the time we declared that we had no political or economic interest in Northern Ireland the IRA stopped attacking us? Weird eh?


The rise of Wahabism as a popular cult part of Islam is relatively recent and they want to kill us all. Its not difficult. They want YOU dead. They want your family dead. They would cut your head off without a second thought. Good luck making peace with that.
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