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Andy Capp
post Apr 20 2017, 08:21 AM
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But we all know what polls can be like! I'm waiting for the 'Queen' of lurkers to show up and bestow her wisdom!
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post Apr 20 2017, 08:49 AM
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Corbyn and his credible policies. Hopefully there will be more upsets like Copeland, Labour lose more seats and then he'll have no choice but to step down.
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post Apr 20 2017, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Apr 20 2017, 09:49 AM) *
Corbyn and his credible policies. Hopefully there will be more upsets like Copeland, Labour lose more seats and then he'll have no choice but to step down.

Yes, Labour's credible socialism has certainly worried the Tories, both those in the Conservative party and those Blairites in Labour.


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post Apr 20 2017, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 20 2017, 11:56 AM) *
Yes, Labour's credible socialism has certainly worried the Tories, both those in the Conservative party and those Blairites in Labour.


I suppose 1 million homes, 1 million worthwhile jobs that'll make people want to get up in the morning as well as £500 billion injection into the economy is credible.
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post Apr 20 2017, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Apr 20 2017, 01:13 PM) *
I suppose 1 million homes, 1 million worthwhile jobs that'll make people want to get up in the morning as well as £500 billion injection into the economy is credible.


Actually, against the amount of money we p*** away on non peaceful nuclear and other 'defence' needs, yes, it is perfectly credible. And worthwhile jobs; or at least our fair share of head office / strategic jobs that have disappeared to the continent. I certainly agree, as do several of my ex BHS friends, that getting up to work for a firm where the boss doesn't think you are something he stepped in on the pavement and isn't sailing round the Med. spending your future career prospects, might be a better alternative than what's on offer by our dark and light blue colleagues!


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post Apr 20 2017, 07:29 PM
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Not a great choice:

Monster Raving Tories - Pro EU, but likely hard Brexit and much austerity & hardship unless you are a swindling fat cat. Strong party leader who is popular with the membership and cabinet.

Laborious- Pro EUish but with a support largely anti-EU; perhaps Brexit lite whilst they promise anything with a dollop of repulsive shadow cabinet members. Weak leader, popular with the membership but not popular in parliament.

Liberally Demented - smug pro EU anti-Brexit, but no-one likes them.


Hopeless.
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post Apr 20 2017, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 20 2017, 08:29 PM) *
Not a great choice:

Monster Raving Tories - Pro EU, but likely hard Brexit and much austerity & hardship unless you are a swindling fat cat. Strong party leader who is popular with the membership and cabinet.

Laborious- Pro EUish but with a support largely anti-EU; perhaps Brexit lite whilst they promise anything with a dollop of repulsive shadow cabinet members. Weak leader, popular with the membership but not popular in parliament.

Liberally Demented - smug pro EU anti-Brexit, but no-one likes them.


Hopeless.

you forgot VW!!
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post Apr 20 2017, 11:41 PM
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At the end of this election, I think the reality that the workers revolution is never coming might finally dawn on Jeremy Corbyn. Maybe he'll be converted to New Labour!
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post Apr 21 2017, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Apr 21 2017, 12:41 AM) *
At the end of this election, I think the reality that the workers revolution is never coming might finally dawn on Jeremy Corbyn. Maybe he'll be converted to New Labour!


They've tried that, its called Conservatism.


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post Apr 21 2017, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 20 2017, 11:24 PM) *
VW!!

That's the trouble with politicians; you can't trust a word they say. And what they do say is largely bad for your health!
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post May 6 2017, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Apr 20 2017, 11:56 AM) *
Yes, Labour's credible socialism has certainly worried the Tories, both those in the Conservative party and those Blairites in Labour.


Yep, really worried
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post May 17 2017, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Apr 20 2017, 09:49 AM) *
Corbyn and his credible policies. Hopefully there will be more upsets like Copeland, Labour lose more seats and then he'll have no choice but to step down.





So did Adolf Hitler to some, but that isn't reason enough to vote for him.

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post May 17 2017, 04:29 PM
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If Labour does do badly and Corbyn stands down, all the more reason to vote Labour round here. The very last thing we want is yet another coalition with a party which had a manifesto that makes Labour's look sane! If the LibDims do pick up the odd seat, like West Berks, we are in deep trouble. With them, it's not don't hold your breath, more don't breath in!


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post May 17 2017, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 17 2017, 05:29 PM) *
If Labour does do badly and Corbyn stands down, all the more reason to vote Labour round here. The very last thing we want is yet another coalition with a party which had a manifesto that makes Labour's look sane! If the LibDims do pick up the odd seat, like West Berks, we are in deep trouble. With them, it's not don't hold your breath, more don't breath in!





Corbyn said he won't stand down if they lose.

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post May 17 2017, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 17 2017, 05:29 PM) *
If Labour does do badly and Corbyn stands down, all the more reason to vote Labour round here. The very last thing we want is yet another coalition with a party which had a manifesto that makes Labour's look sane! If the LibDims do pick up the odd seat, like West Berks, we are in deep trouble. With them, it's not don't hold your breath, more don't breath in!

What is insane about the Lib Dem's manifesto?
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post May 17 2017, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 17 2017, 08:24 PM) *
What is insane about the Lib Dem's manifesto?

I think it's a goodun, cannabis on the high Street. Got to be a winner. Sales of cornflakes will soar as well.
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post May 17 2017, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ May 17 2017, 08:34 PM) *
I think it's a goodun, cannabis on the high Street. Got to be a winner. Sales of cornflakes will soar as well.

It's already here.
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post May 17 2017, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 17 2017, 08:24 PM) *
What is insane about the Lib Dem's manifesto?


The idea of legalising cannabis, taxing sales and using the revenue to pay for the programme. Presumably the LibDims will continue to try and outlaw smoking!
Frankly, a safer approach would be to legalise prostitution and tax that - would solve the NHS problem wouldn't it?

Sorry, and it's probably me being very cynical, but what happened to the policies they had when in coalition? Anyway, West Berks ought to be once bitten twice shy.


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post May 17 2017, 10:27 PM
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Blair - "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime"
Corbyn - "Tough on wealth, tough on the causes of wealth"
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post May 18 2017, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ May 17 2017, 10:06 PM) *
The idea of legalising cannabis, taxing sales and using the revenue to pay for the programme. Presumably the LibDims will continue to try and outlaw smoking!
Frankly, a safer approach would be to legalise prostitution and tax that - would solve the NHS problem wouldn't it?

Sorry, and it's probably me being very cynical, but what happened to the policies they had when in coalition? Anyway, West Berks ought to be once bitten twice shy.

Cannabis is already effectively legal.
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