Pig And Paper closes. Options

[Guest_Bill1_*]

I am very sad to read that the bar closed last night.

It was one of the only venues in town where you could enjoy DJs and live music covering many genres and feel safe in an up for it, but non-hostile environment.

What a pity.

[ossy1]

How sad, It's always full when I go past on a friday and saturday night.

Guess not full enough.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Rent and Rates in Newbury = Pub Closure.

[Hugh Saskin]

Rent and Rates in Newbury = Pub Closure.

Is it just a Newbury problem though? Seem to recall reading that pub closures in this country are currently running at an astronomic rate, was 39 a week at the beginning of 2009, probably more than that now.

[GrumblingAgain]

Rent and Rates in Newbury = Pub Closure.

+ 12 years of a Labour Government + year after year of alcohol tax increases + Years of greedy above inflation price rises from brewers and pubchains + smoking ban + worse recession for decades = Pub Closure.

[user23]

Isn't the landlord taking over the old Bar Cuba building?

I would have thought that's the reason it's closed.

[Hugh Saskin]

+ 12 years of a Labour Government + year after year of alcohol tax increases + Years of greedy above inflation price rises from brewers and pubchains + smoking ban + worse recession for decades = Pub Closure.

But booze has never been so cheap in the UK as it is now, relatively speaking - just look at some of the almost giveaway prices in the supermarkets. Do the Labour government get the credit, or the blame, for that, I wonder?

[GrumblingAgain]

Isn't the landlord taking over the old Bar Cuba building?

I would have thought that's the reason it's closed.

Well a pub chain won't generally close a particular pub just because the landlord moves on - they would normally install a temporary manager wouldn't they?

Is that what used to be the old Natwest pub? if so, it's never done well has it?

[GrumblingAgain]

But booze has never been so cheap in the UK as it is now, relatively speaking - just look at some of the almost giveaway prices in the supermarkets. Do the Labour government get the credit, or the blame, for that, I wonder?

That's supermarket/off-licence booze though. Its still taxed, it's just that supermarkets loss-lead on the portion of the price that isn't the tax!

Every year the Gov raised the tax on a pint by a penny or two. It's always converted into a 10p or so rise by the pub of course though.

[user23]

Well a pub chain won't generally close a particular pub just because the landlord moves on - they would normally install a temporary manager wouldn't they?

It's not a chain.

The note on the door says their lease has expired and they have decided to move on.

[Hugh Saskin]

Every year the Gov raised the tax on a pint by a penny or two. It's always converted into a 10p or so rise by the pub of course though.

But that's been going on for decades, irrespective of the colour of government. What is really alarming is the increase in pub closures. Mayhaps the smoking ban has a good bit to do with that but, who can really argue against that?

[GrumblingAgain]

But that's been going on for decades, irrespective of the colour of government. What is really alarming is the increase in pub closures. Mayhaps the smoking ban has a good bit to do with that but, who can really argue against that?

Yes but it is still one of the many things that leads to pubs closing. I am sure in many instances the smoking ban is the final straw, but tightening belts during a recession and/or job uncertainty would also contribute.

[GrumblingAgain]

It's not a chain.

The note on the door says their lease has expired and they have decided to move on.

Was it a free house then, free from a brewery chain or pub chain or pub co?

So the lease expiring was the reason for closure, not the manager moving on.

[user23]

Was it a free house then, free from a brewery chain or pub chain or pub co?

So the lease expiring was the reason for closure, not the manager moving on.

I believe it was a free house, as was Eve before it.

I think the manager not renewing the lease due to wanting to move on was more the case.

[blackdog]

I think the manager not renewing the lease due to wanting to move on was more the case.

It was not a manager it is the owner of the business - but not the owner of the building. He is opening up in the old Bar Cuba - as Avenue. Rumour has it he is also looking at taking over the Berkshire Tavern. I can see no reason for not running the Pig & Paper as well, apart from profitability - as has been pointed out it is busy enough, so the rent seems a feasible reason for closing.

Perhaps someone else will take on the lease and it will continue to be a pub.

[Guest_Bill1_*]

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=11098


Hope this helps clear up the various rumours.

[user23]

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=11098


Hope this helps clear up the various rumours.

It does. It was the owner of the building wot dunnit.

[Iommi]

It's the same sort of thing that happened to The Clocky way back.

[user23]

It's the same sort of thing that happened to The Clocky way back.

And it's never recovered. I wonder if it went back to the old style Clocky, would it do better?