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post Aug 25 2010, 08:04 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11076674

WTF - So hang on. You have a convicted person who is a known MENTALLY ILL VIOLENT CRIMINAL. I know what we'll do - Let them out to mix with all and sundry but hey at least we will know where they are when they strangle / murder / rape some innocenet member of society. This may have been 'successful' to start with but its only a matter of time.... angry.gif
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Iommi
post Sep 2 2010, 05:34 PM
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My view is: doing nothing but making prison a worse place to be, will in all likelihood make little difference to how safe people feel.
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post Sep 2 2010, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 2 2010, 06:34 PM) *
My view is: doing nothing but making prison a worse place to be, will in all likelihood make little difference to how safe people feel.


That's an opinion granted - but evidence and many others differ. rolleyes.gif


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post Sep 2 2010, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 2 2010, 07:00 PM) *
That's an opinion granted - but evidence and many others differ. rolleyes.gif

I'm not sure what justifies the roll-of-the-eyes. A short search and read of various websites seem to support my theory. You have said yourself: why people are criminals is a complex thing. It stands to reason that it would take more than one thing to change for there to be a wholesale change. In other-words, there's not a catch all cure. Moreover; there is little likelihood of some of the suggestions being implemented for the foreseeable future.

To me it seems logical that the chances of going to gaol would serve as a greater deterrent than the conditions in gaol if caught.
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post Sep 2 2010, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Sep 2 2010, 07:08 PM) *
I'm not sure what justifies the roll-of-the-eyes. A short search and read of various websites seem to support my theory. You have said yourself: why people are criminals is a complex thing. It stands to reason that it would take more than one thing to change for there to be a wholesale change. In other-words, there's not a catch all cure. Moreover; there is little likelihood of some of the suggestions being implemented for the foreseeable future.

To me it seems logical that the chances of going to gaol would serve as a greater deterrent than the conditions in gaol if caught.


The issue has more than one dimension and needs more than one solution. Harsh prison regimes are only part of the answer. Concentrating police resource on dealing with crime, rather than doing other things, is another - oh but that's another thread!


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