Global Warming in trouble?, MO calling in the administrators? Options

[motormad]

But I thought winter was supposed to be cold, when its a warm winter it's down to global warming, when it's cold it's down to climate change. No one ever hear of frost fairs?.

Because they can tax on Global warming...... !!

[Turin Machine]

Because they can tax on Global warming...... !!

Exactly, too much money being made to admit its flawed science.

[Andy Capp]

But I thought winter was supposed to be cold, when its a warm winter it's down to global warming, when it's cold it's down to climate change. No one ever hear of frost fairs?.

Because they can tax on Global warming...... !!

Exactly, too much money being made to admit its flawed science.

So if they don't raise tax through apparent green measures, where does the money come from for all the flood defences that need erecting?

[dannyboy]

Exactly, too much money being made to admit its flawed science.

I'll remind you of that when we are all coughing our last beacuse we thought it our ******** given right to do what we want whenever & however.

I'm not so worried about myself, but I have a feeling my children's children are going to face not qite so much a 'Wonderful World'

[Turin Machine]

I'll remind you of that when we are all coughing our last beacuse we thought it our ******** given right to do what we want whenever & however.

I'm not so worried about myself, but I have a feeling my children's children are going to face not qite so much a 'Wonderful World'

That's OK 'cos I don't worry about you either.

[dannyboy]

That's OK 'cos I don't worry about you either.

which is excatly the atitude that has trashed most of the planet. Cool eh.

[Turin Machine]

which is excatly the atitude that has trashed most of the planet. Cool eh.

whilst you of course have all the answers, bravo!

[Andy Capp]

whilst you of course have all the answers, bravo!

Raise taxes to pay for sea and flood defences? Or perhpas bury one's head in the sand and let the next lot sort it out!

[dannyboy]

whilst you of course have all the answers, bravo!

It is sad that you need someone else to point them out to you.

Such is the foolhardiness & arogance of our kind.

Dave Bartholomew - 'The Monkey Speaks His Mind'..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZeLSwz-Dw

[On the edge]

But I thought winter was supposed to be cold, when its a warm winter it's down to global warming, when it's cold it's down to climate change. No one ever hear of frost fairs?.

Yeah, we all did history, but perhaps because some of us were kept in, we found out about the law of averages and that natural progression isn't a straight line, even when the overall direction is up.

You are quite right, though, so what, its just even more cold in winter and probably even more hot in summer. We've got plenty of gas, and when do farmers ever stop moaning. We'll be OK - the Daily Mail says so.

Apparently there have been no frost fairs on the Thames since they put in the embankment, makes the water level much higher and the tide faster. Now Thames isn't used for shipping, perhaps a re think in order, lets restore it to original state, which would save us all millions on Thames Water's super sewer idea.

[Blake]

If anyone is confused by the very real issue of climate change, I can wholeheartedly recommend the book by environmental expert George Monbiot; Heat; How to Stop the Planet Burning, Allen Lane, 2006.

It has had stellar reviews and I think represents a concerted effort to get to the truth on this pressing threat to our future.

[Biker1]

If global warming / climate change exists due to the presence of mankind on the planet then nothing is going to stop it until the population is decreased.
Is that going to happen?...............NO!!
Current trend is for another 1billion by 2025.
In a word.........frightening!!

[Andy Capp]

Agreed. I don't think global warming / climate change is the biggest threat to society; I believe it is water, energy and food famine; viz, over population. Although that isn't strictly true. A part of the problem is The West is taking much more than its fair share.

[On the edge]

Well at least they won't be moving here now Mr C has shut the door! We'll be OK in our Island.

[On the edge]

If anyone is confused by the very real issue of climate change, I can wholeheartedly recommend the book by environmental expert George Monbiot; Heat; How to Stop the Planet Burning, Allen Lane, 2006.

It has had stellar reviews and I think represents a concerted effort to get to the truth on this pressing threat to our future.

Another trouble maker. He'd get short shrift round here - a vexatious complainant if ever there was one.

[Blake]

Yes, but surely all those phenomena are interconnected?

To put it simply; more people means more Co2 emissions. Yes, we need the world population to shrink hugely over the coming years.

[On the edge]

Yes, but surely all those phenomena are interconnected?

To put it simply; more people means more Co2 emissions. Yes, we need the world population to shrink hugely over the coming years.

But that's called joined up thinking. We don't do that, not in these parts! Whatever next?

[Blake]

A valid explanation based on science, not media gossip and plebeian cynicism;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013...loss?CMP=twt_fd

[On the edge]

A valid explanation based on science, not media gossip and plebeian cynicism;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013...loss?CMP=twt_fd

Thanks for that.

I suspect we are in for a good few 'uncomfortable truths' even in the coming months. We aren't going to like increase in fuel costs as the winter bills start to arrive and that's just the start. We'll also pay more for food and of a lower quality. When should we start to worry? 20 years ago would have helped.

[JeffG]

We aren't going to like increase in fuel costs

And the extended cold weather means we are using more of it. The forecast is now mid-April before we get out of this current spell.