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post Oct 28 2009, 09:55 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=11435

Congratulations. A youth under the legal limit for drinking 'manages' to obey the law for 2 weeks so lets forget the robberies, vehicle theft and assaults and give him a pat on the back.

What a load of old s!*t.
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post Oct 28 2009, 09:59 AM
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:09 AM
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Good God, I can't believe this. It must be April fools day.
This is a traversty of justice.
Something has to be done with our justice system. This moron is totally out of control, violent and dangerous and the fools let him go.
So we wait now for him to do something equally outrageous and then take him to court again.
This has made me depressed and angry that the public are put at risk by this mistaken decision.
He should be locked up.


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post Oct 28 2009, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Oct 28 2009, 10:09 AM) *
Good God, I can't believe this. It must be April fools day.
This is a traversty of justice.
Something has to be done with our justice system. This moron is totally out of control, violent and dangerous and the fools let him go.
So we wait now for him to do something equally outrageous and then take him to court again.
This has made me depressed and angry that the public are put at risk by this mistaken decision.
He should be locked up.


Thats just it Bloggo. He won't be jailed until he kills or permanently disables someone. This is what the justice system has become. A complete and utter joke. They even tried to help him by assigning him a youth offending officer (using our tax payers money) but he 'did not get on with him'. I wonder why? because he is a violent thug with no morals by chance?
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2009, 10:12 AM) *
Thats just it Bloggo. He won't be jailed until he kills or permanently disables someone. This is what the justice system has become. A complete and utter joke. They even tried to help him by assigning him a youth offending officer (using our tax payers money) but he 'did not get on with him'. I wonder why? because he is a violent thug with no morals by chance?

How on earth does the ordinary law abiding bloke in the street reverse this obscene corruption of justice and law.
I will certainly be letting Richard Benyon know my view.



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post Oct 28 2009, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Oct 28 2009, 10:18 AM) *
I will certainly be letting Richard Benyon know my view.

A good idea: I shall do the same, and lets hope a good number of others do too. I could not believe what I was reading, and I normally tend towards the liberal end of the spectrum wink.gif
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 28 2009, 10:23 AM) *
A good idea: I shall do the same, and lets hope a good number of others do too. I could not believe what I was reading, and I normally tend towards the liberal end of the spectrum wink.gif

Great, I too hope others protest.
I have already e-mailed Mr Benyon.
It's appalling.


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post Oct 28 2009, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Oct 28 2009, 10:32 AM) *
Great, I too hope others protest.
I have already e-mailed Mr Benyon.
It's appalling.


Done. It's mp@richardbenyon.com to save others having to look it up.
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post Oct 28 2009, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 28 2009, 10:51 AM) *
Done. It's mp@richardbenyon.com to save others having to look it up.

I sent my e-mail to BENYONR@parliament.uk


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post Oct 28 2009, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 28 2009, 10:12 AM) *
Thats just it Bloggo. He won't be jailed until he kills or permanently disables someone. This is what the justice system has become. A complete and utter joke. They even tried to help him by assigning him a youth offending officer (using our tax payers money) but he 'did not get on with him'. I wonder why? because he is a violent thug with no morals by chance?


And even then he'll probably get a ridiculously short sentence angry.gif .
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I sent my e-mail to BENYONR@parliament.uk




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post Oct 28 2009, 03:40 PM
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Is the Magistrate concerned of sound mind. Perhaps it's time he retired, & someone with a bit of common sense took his place me-thinks. wacko.gif
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post Oct 28 2009, 06:01 PM
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I think that there's normally 3 magistrates, allegedly drawn from 'the people'.

I say allegedly because I can't think of any 'people' who will read this and think "Ah, British justice! A system that is the envy of every country in the known world", apart from the youth concerned, perhaps.

These persons live in CloudCuckooLand (just west of Hemel Hempstead apparently) if they think that this passes for justice in any way shape or form.

Where is the punishment? Where is the rehabilitation? Where is the justice? Where is the love? (sorry, couldn't resist it).

This is serious subject despite my little jokes and something must be done before it all goes pear shaped.


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post Oct 28 2009, 08:37 PM
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I'd hate to be a copper in Newbury - all kicks and no ha'pence. Just imagine how you'd feel when a good few days work is simply destroyed by the boss, simply on a whim. We really need a clearout of the muddle heads in the Criminal Justice Industry. Yes, and another email to RB.


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post Oct 28 2009, 08:42 PM
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Sending this person to a "university of crime" would be the wrong move.

That said this sentence does seem to be a bit lenient.
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post Oct 29 2009, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:42 PM) *
Sending this person to a "university of crime" would be the wrong move.

That said this sentence does seem to be a bit lenient.


I think its a bit late for him to be attending the'university of crime' judging by his charge sheet. I think he has already qualified with honours and it is on his Masters degree. angry.gif
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post Oct 29 2009, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:42 PM) *
Sending this person to a "university of crime" would be the wrong move.

That said this sentence does seem to be a bit lenient.

Part of the re-vamp of the Justice system should be to make jails a place where to continuence of crime, even within the jail, is strictly discouraged.
You do this by making a jail sentence so tough and unpleasant that the criminals don't want to risk going back in.
The present system is weak, ineffective and does not represent a penalty for the crimes committed.
Time for change me thinks.


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post Nov 1 2009, 12:43 PM
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I know we all get very het up over these reports , but by virtue of the continuing blinkered approach by the judiciary, it is banging heads against brick walls time again.

I am sure Mr Beynon is not immune to the feeling of the people even though he may be of sufficient privilege to be beyond it's effect .

We all know that magistrates in general and judges in particular live in a rarefied atmosphere immune from reality , but by continuously badgering our local MP with our disquiet still remains our only option .

We are all aware that politicians both present and future will promise the earth in exchange for votes , so maybe we should submit our Christmas wish list with some form of guarantee attached , after all the sale of goods act decrees that an item ( read member of parliament ) should be fit for purpose .

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post Nov 1 2009, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (lordtup @ Nov 1 2009, 12:43 PM) *
We all know that ... judges in particular live in a rarefied atmosphere immune from reality

Not all. At the only trial where I was a member of the jury, the prosecuting counsel was ridiculing a witness for referring to his "baby sister" who was in her twenties. The (white) judge pulled him up short, saying that it was a common Afro-Caribbean expression. I wouldn't have known that.

QUOTE (lordtup @ Nov 1 2009, 12:43 PM) *
the sale of goods act decrees that an item ( read member of parliament ) should be fit for purpose .

Ooh! Does that mean that we can send them back within 30 days if we decide we don't want them after all?
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post Nov 1 2009, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Nov 1 2009, 12:54 PM) *
Not all. At the only trial where I was a member of the jury, the prosecuting counsel was ridiculing a witness for referring to his "baby sister" who was in her twenties. The (white) judge pulled him up short, saying that it was a common Afro-Caribbean expression. I wouldn't have known that.


Umm - nor did he - that's text book PC claptrap I've heard at several 'awareness and training' workshops but ironically, never from any of my my Afro-Carribean friends and colleagues.


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