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post Jul 30 2016, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Jul 29 2016, 10:43 PM) *
I'm not convinced we don't have the necessary skills - I think it's just to big a project. Nuclear power stations have, for some reason, become ludicrously costly. Why not make smaller ones based on the established UK expertise in ship-born nuclear plant?

Trident is a simple design in comparison - for which we have the necessary skills here in West Berkshire.



Quite so, lets just hope that the review going on right now isn't too late and manages to come up with a better answer. In project terms, even the government sponsored project management guidelines would indicate its far to big with an almost zero chance of successful delivery against cost and time.

Then there is the nuclear debate itself, which has been going on since the privatisation of the electricity industry. With growing anger, I've watched as establishment politicians and bankers have consorted so that we have arrived here, a situation that puts a massive physical risk to us in foreign hands and at the same time discounts the nations skills and capabilities. Small scale nuclear generating plant is quite feasible and has been for a good few years. For instance, it was thought eminently feasible for off grid demands such as the Channel Islands. Just as safe as any other small nuclear installations the like of which we have round here. However, I just wonder how many of us have been inculcated with the suggestion that used to be current in political circles locally that the nuclear physics used by AWE or Harwell is different to that used by the electricity industry.




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post Jul 30 2016, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 29 2016, 11:21 PM) *
It is such a colossal shame that we don't abandon Trident and invest the £200 billion cost into the scientific and engineering research to develop fusion generation. Fission power is relatively green technology but it is still frightfully dangerous, but fusion power is very much more benign and would do wonders for climate change and energy security - both very real and pressing problems.


...and how much better would it be if Aldermaston was known as a centre for the advanced development of energy for civil use. Now that's were national pride starts to kick in.


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post Jul 30 2016, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Jul 30 2016, 07:48 AM) *
...and how much better would it be if Aldermaston was known as a centre for the advanced development of energy for civil use. Now that's were national pride starts to kick in.

Indeed.


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post Jul 30 2016, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jul 29 2016, 11:21 PM) *
It is such a colossal shame that we don't abandon Trident .





Such a shame for who? It is the duty of any Government (and the majority of Labour MPs know this) this it is the priority of any government to protect their citizens. Most people support the renewal of Trident over anything else. Of course you get nutters like Corbyn who disagree, but they are in the minority and will never get into power, anyway. Even their own MPs don't support their leader. That should tell you something.

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post Jul 30 2016, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 30 2016, 05:22 PM) *
Such a shame for who? It is the duty of any Government (and the majority of Labour MPs know this) this it is the priority of any government to protect their citizens. Most people support the renewal of Trident over anything else. Of course you get nutters like Corbyn who disagree, but they are in the minority and will never get into power, anyway. Even their own MPs don't support their leader. That should tell you something.


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post Jul 30 2016, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jul 29 2016, 11:07 PM) *
How do you know if she raised questions at cabinet but was ignored. Osborne and Cameron were pretty untouchable for a period. Just saying. I'd keep an open mind...


I did say...crystal balls and all....😉

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36932027


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post Jul 30 2016, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Jul 30 2016, 05:22 PM) *
Such a shame for who? It is the duty of any Government (and the majority of Labour MPs know this) this it is the priority of any government to protect their citizens. Most people support the renewal of Trident over anything else. Of course you get nutters like Corbyn who disagree, but they are in the minority and will never get into power, anyway. Even their own MPs don't support their leader. That should tell you something.


First, yes the MPs not supporting their leader does tell you something. In essence, it tells you what's wrong with the Labour Party! If I want a Tory MP I'd rather vote for a real one; Coke is better than Tesco Cola.

Second, I'm not convinced that most people do support the renewal of Trident, particularly when they actually think about it. We are simply bring told that by the Government, the very people who told us most people wanted to stay in Europe.

Third, yes, it's a prime duty of any Government to protect its citizens, but who is it protecting them from? I hope it isn't France or China, they will already have their own response on our soil if we back Hinkley!


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post Jul 31 2016, 07:31 PM
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Banking.... Italy first followed by Germany? Soros knows.....
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post Sep 27 2016, 06:37 PM
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-26/i...s-getting-worse

Worth a read..... Is this why Merkels telling all Germans to stock up with food and water?
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