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> Local Election opinion poll, Who will you vote for?
Opinion poll
Who will you vote for?
Apolitical Democrats [ 4 ] ** [13.33%]
Conservative [ 6 ] ** [20.00%]
Independent [ 2 ] ** [6.67%]
Labour [ 7 ] ** [23.33%]
Lib Dem [ 5 ] ** [16.67%]
UKIP [ 1 ] ** [3.33%]
Not voting [ 5 ] ** [16.67%]
Total Votes: 30
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 01:21 PM
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I posted a poll at the other local forum after seeing a poll on facebook, so thought it would be good to do one here. Who will you be voting for?
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post Apr 15 2011, 01:41 PM
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No one.

total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 01:41 PM) *
No one.

total and utter waste of 10 mins of my life, which could be better spent doing something far less pointless.


Playing devils advocate, what about the services you value? If you don't vote and services are decimated, how can you come on here and complain when you didn't vote?
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post Apr 15 2011, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:45 PM) *
Playing devils advocate, what about the services you value? If you don't vote and services are decimated, how can you come on here and complain when you didn't vote?

No I will not be voting.

I have not voted in a single election, local or national. Ever. There is no point.

To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.

The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 01:51 PM) *
No I will not be voting.

I have not voted in a single election, local or national. Ever. There is no point.

To be decimated, services would have to be less than 10% of what they are now, but that is another matter.

The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.


On that basis then, education in West Berkshire is already down 8%, and is being cut further next year!!! Children Centres already cut by 5% with more to follow, Libraries already cut by £300,000. Even Day centres and youth clubs have already been "decimated" by the Conservative administration using your terminology, not mine.

So why would you continue to defend them?
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 01:51 PM) *
The provision of local services are independent of which party is in power.


That may be so, but councillors are supposed to take decisions, not unelected officers.
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post Apr 15 2011, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:58 PM) *
On that basis then, education in West Berkshire is already down 8%, and is being cut further next year!!! Children Centres already cut by 5% with more to follow, Libraries already cut by £300,000. Even Day centres and youth clubs have already been "decimated" by the Conservative administration using your terminology, not mine.

So why would you continue to defend them?

I'm not defending anyone. Mere;y pointing out that it matters not who is running the show.

Isn't central govet taking up the slack?
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post Apr 15 2011, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:59 PM) *
That may be so, but councillors are supposed to take decisions, not unelected officers.

and decisions based upon?
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 15 2011, 02:07 PM) *
I'm not defending anyone. Mere;y pointing out that it matters not who is running the show.

Isn't central govet taking up the slack?


Cameron and Pickles have said that current Government funding should allow councils to protect key services. You typically defend the West Berks administration on most things.
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post Apr 15 2011, 02:27 PM
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Go Apolitical Democrats. Shame Miss Whiplash is not standing. wink.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 03:06 PM
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I won't be voting - I have served as a councillor, a branch chairman for the conservatives, a conservative future chairman and served on several steering groups and commitees. I have got involved with politics nationally and locally and if I decide not to vote this time I think I have a right to do so and still complain. I hate the line if you don't vote you can't complain. Should I vote for someone I disagree with? Then I could complain but not really because I voted for them? That's a bit of a paradox. I'm with Dannyboy and even if I went and voted tory, my wife would go and vote Lib Dem, so I'd rather stay in.
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post Apr 15 2011, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 15 2011, 04:06 PM) *
I won't be voting - I have served as a councillor, a branch chairman for the conservatives, a conservative future chairman and served on several steering groups and commitees. I have got involved with politics nationally and locally and if I decide not to vote this time I think I have a right to do so and still complain. I hate the line if you don't vote you can't complain. Should I vote for someone I disagree with? Then I could complain but not really because I voted for them? That's a bit of a paradox. I'm with Dannyboy and even if I went and voted tory, my wife would go and vote Lib Dem, so I'd rather stay in.


Agree there is no one standing in my area apart from Conservative or Lib Dem so I have no one to vote for. sad.gif


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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 15 2011, 02:27 PM) *
Go Apolitical Democrats. Shame Miss Whiplash is not standing. wink.gif


Miss Whiplash??
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 15 2011, 03:06 PM) *
I won't be voting - I have served as a councillor, a branch chairman for the conservatives, a conservative future chairman and served on several steering groups and commitees. I have got involved with politics nationally and locally and if I decide not to vote this time I think I have a right to do so and still complain. I hate the line if you don't vote you can't complain. Should I vote for someone I disagree with? Then I could complain but not really because I voted for them? That's a bit of a paradox. I'm with Dannyboy and even if I went and voted tory, my wife would go and vote Lib Dem, so I'd rather stay in.


I take your point.
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post Apr 15 2011, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 02:45 PM) *
Playing devils advocate, what about the services you value? If you don't vote and services are decimated, how can you come on here and complain when you didn't vote?

I'm going to spoil my ballot paper. I'm utterly fed up with local politicians, a plague of pox on the lot of them.


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post Apr 15 2011, 06:41 PM
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*oh FFS*


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Andy Capp
post Apr 15 2011, 07:07 PM
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Yes. Independent, or spoil it, is my view. Lib Dems and the Tories are the same thing locally.
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GMR
post Apr 15 2011, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 15 2011, 08:07 PM) *
Yes. Independent, or spoil it, is my view. Lib Dems and the Tories are the same thing locally.


They are not totally the same... for a start both names are different and spelt differently. laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 15 2011, 04:51 PM) *
Miss Whiplash??

Showing your youth Richard - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindi_St_Clair.
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 15 2011, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 15 2011, 02:27 PM) *
Go Apolitical Democrats. Shame Miss Whiplash is not standing. wink.gif


I've heard of Miss Whiplash (the real one), but using the context of the quoted post, I was trying to think what relevance Miss Whiplash had to the Apoliticals!!!
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