Second referendum Options

[Strafin]

Yes, I can see that, and the reality of some momentary discomfort. So, I suppose it's a question of how that gets managed politically. There's the old adage of standing firm by putting your collar up turning ar** into the wind whilst the storm rages. Let's face it, like her or not, TM has a backbone of steel and hasn't flinched from her purpose. That's real leadership.

Well she started off as a remainer...

[je suis Charlie]

Well she started off as a remainer...

For me, that's her attraction, she's a firm remainer but, still sticking to her guns to see that the country gets what it voted for. Good for her.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

For me, that's her attraction, she's a firm remainer but, still sticking to her guns to see that the country gets what it voted for. Good for her.

Whereas JC would sell his soul for power. If you think Brexit will bring about an exodus then that pales into insignificance with the exodus of wealth generators that would happen with a Corbyn Marxist government. The only people left would be on benefits. 🤣

[newres]

Tribalism in the context of the EU is ironic to say the least! It's a tribalist set up, the two founding protagonists Germany and France are well recognised even in the EU itself for their tribalist approach to almost any proposal. We can see the same in Eire and indeed Scotland. So, 'education frees people from tribalisim' doesn't seem to be that true.

The EU is the opposite of tribalism.Tribalism is nationalism.

[je suis Charlie]

The EU is the opposite of tribalism.Tribalism is nationalism.

Which is what he said.

[newres]

For me, that's her attraction, she's a firm remainer but, still sticking to her guns to see that the country gets what it voted for. Good for her.

Well according to Farage and Rees Mogg her deal is NOT what the country voted for. Therein lies the problem.

[newres]

Which is what he said.

Put your glasses on and read it with your finger pointing to one word at a time.

[je suis Charlie]

Put your glasses on and read it with your finger pointing to one word at a time.

Tried that but your phat phinger was in the way.

[Strafin]

Well according to Farage and Rees Mogg her deal is NOT what the country voted for. Therein lies the problem.

The only people who really knew what they were voting for were remainers. You may not agree with their sentiment but as we are already in the EU they are the only ones who knew exactly what was on offer.

[je suis Charlie]

The only people who really knew what they were voting for were remainers. You may not agree with their sentiment but as we are already in the EU they are the only ones who knew exactly what was on offer.

In theory, however does everyone who voted remain agree with contributions to the EU armed forces, or the EU deciding tax burdens for individuals or the EU allocating immigrants to individual nations, or are happy at the insane levels of corruption at top levels? Not to mention the overturning of UK court decisions by the EU? I actually heard one interview where the young lady wailed that it was wrong 'cos I like Europe, now I won't be able to go there' which pretty much summed up for me the level of understanding of the situation. 🤔

[newres]

In theory, however does everyone who voted remain agree with contributions to the EU armed forces, or the EU deciding tax burdens for individuals or the EU allocating immigrants to individual nations, or are happy at the insane levels of corruption at top levels? Not to mention the overturning of UK court decisions by the EU? I actually heard one interview where the young lady wailed that it was wrong 'cos I like Europe, now I won't be able to go there' which pretty much summed up for me the level of understanding of the situation. 🤔

If they voted remain on the whole they were content. I'm not going to vote to do away with democracy just because I may think there's corruption in MP's expenses claims for example. Nothing's perfect is it? Not even me!

[TallDarkAndHands...]

If they voted remain on the whole they were content. I'm not going to vote to do away with democracy just because I may think there's corruption in MP's expenses claims for example. Nothing's perfect is it? Not even me!

Thick as mince the majority of remainers. Ask any of them what the main treaties of the EU are and what they mean. Most won't be able to name one. But they want to be part of a Union they have no understanding of. Cos it's Europe. Innit.

[je suis Charlie]

Thick as mince the majority of remainers. Ask any of them what the main treaties of the EU are and what they mean. Most won't be able to name one. But they want to be part of a Union they have no understanding of. Cos it's Europe. Innit.

Yup. About right. Find me a remainer, any remainer who can satisfactorily explain the ramifications of the Lisbon treaty can you? Without them having to Google it first.

[SirWilliam]

Whereas JC would sell his soul for power. If you think Brexit will bring about an exodus then that pales into insignificance with the exodus of wealth generators that would happen with a Corbyn Marxist government. The only people left would be on benefits. 🤣

And pensioners. JCeeeeeeee for king.

[newres]

Thick as mince the majority of remainers. Ask any of them what the main treaties of the EU are and what they mean. Most won't be able to name one. But they want to be part of a Union they have no understanding of. Cos it's Europe. Innit.

Unfortunately the facts say the opposite.

[newres]

Yup. About right. Find me a remainer, any remainer who can satisfactorily explain the ramifications of the Lisbon treaty can you? Without them having to Google it first.

Can you explain them?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Unfortunately the facts say the opposite.

So you are saying that remainers have an understanding of the EU treaties? Or not?

[je suis Charlie]

Can you explain them?

Yup.

[newres]

Yup.

But you voted Remain so you’re a remainer.

[newres]

So you are saying that remainers have an understanding of the EU treaties? Or not?

You said remainers were thick as mince. The data says it’s the Leavers that are less intelligent.