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andy1979uk
post Jul 3 2012, 09:04 AM
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David C proposes a beenfit cap to three children, to discourage having more children that you can afford. Does this seem fair to everyone ?
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:21 AM
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Yes.
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:28 AM
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Personally I think it should be two but there you go!
It's not so much whether the parents can afford it but whether we can we afford a continual increase in the population??
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jul 3 2012, 10:28 AM) *
Personally I think it should be two but there you go!
It's not so much whether the parents can afford it but whether we can we afford a continual increase in the population??


I agree with it, am all in favour of the benefit cuts. The only excpetion would be if a family of say 6 suddenly found themselves out of work after working for 20 years, I feel if you have paid in enough then you should get support for your family for a set period while you find another position.

I am suprised at Three, I think two is enough but thought they would cap at four.
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 10:46 AM) *
I agree with it, am all in favour of the benefit cuts. The only excpetion would be if a family of say 6 suddenly found themselves out of work after working for 20 years, I feel if you have paid in enough then you should get support for your family for a set period while you find another position.


Going back to my banded-benefit thing - If you have been working you should be allowed a leeway to cover you if you found yourself unemployed after paying gratiuitous amounts of tax.
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 3 2012, 10:57 AM) *
Going back to my banded-benefit thing - If you have been working you should be allowed a leeway to cover you if you found yourself unemployed after paying gratiuitous amounts of tax.


Yes I agree, the younger generation expect benefits to be handed to them no matter which path in life they choose. This attitude has to stop.
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 11:07 AM) *
Yes I agree, the younger generation expect benefits to be handed to them no matter which path in life they choose. This attitude has to stop.


Uh, you can't agree - because I did not mention anything about the younger generation. I just said that you should have paid some tax in order to be able to claim it back via benefits.
I am not getting into the whole young-person debate because you are obviously both anti-labour (like they are directly responsible for a global financial crisis) and anti-current generation (who will ultimately end up paying for you when you are old and weeing yourself 24 hours a day) .

Carry on as you please.
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 3 2012, 11:11 AM) *
Uh, you can't agree - because I did not mention anything about the younger generation. I just said that you should have paid some tax in order to be able to claim it back via benefits.
I am not getting into the whole young-person debate because you are obviously both anti-labour (like they are directly responsible for a global financial crisis) and anti-current generation (who will ultimately end up paying for you when you are old and weeing yourself 24 hours a day) .

Carry on as you please.


I agree to your statement. Yes I hate both the young generation and labour, my pension will end up paying for me thanks not the current lazy no good generation. The youth of today needs to be written off, simple as.
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 11:19 AM) *
I agree to your statement. Yes I hate both the young generation and labour, my pension will end up paying for me thanks not the current lazy no good generation. The youth of today needs to be written off, simple as.

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post Jul 3 2012, 10:28 AM
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 11:07 AM) *
Yes I agree, the younger generation expect benefits to be handed to them no matter which path in life they choose. This attitude has to stop.


Although this is true for some of the younger generation, it was founded and adopted by the older.
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (Andy1 @ Jul 3 2012, 12:09 PM) *
Although this is true for some of the younger generation, it was founded and adopted by the older.


off topic, they think there will be more riots this summer as the youth have nothing to do!!!
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:29 AM
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The resident troll continues to yap on...
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andy1979uk
post Jul 3 2012, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 3 2012, 12:29 PM) *
The resident troll continues to yap on...


how is that trolling ? I'm just stating my opinion, a troll is someone who winds people up on purpose to get a reaction.
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 11:19 AM) *
I agree to your statement. Yes I hate both the young generation and labour, my pension will end up paying for me thanks not the current lazy no good generation. The youth of today needs to be written off, simple as.



Agree re labour, but re younger generation.
You are typical of stereotyping.

That comes from sheer ignorance, bigotry.
I assume you will be writng off your own kids?

Or is the ivory tower nice and comfy?

Jeez


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post Jul 3 2012, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 12:41 PM) *
how is that trolling ? I'm just stating my opinion, a troll is someone who winds people up on purpose to get a reaction.


Which is clearly not the purpose here, is it?

Your children must be the same scum, benefit expectant, lazy, useless idiots that every other kid is then. Finally nice to see we can agree on something.
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 3 2012, 12:45 PM) *
Which is clearly not the purpose here, is it?

Your children must be the same scum, benefit expectant, lazy, useless idiots that every other kid is then. Finally nice to see we can agree on something.


Nope, my child will not be brought up that way. For someone who can talk sense you can be a complete ****** at times.
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jul 3 2012, 12:44 PM) *
Agree re labour, but re younger generation.
You are typical of stereotyping.

That comes from sheer ignorance, bigotry.
I assume you will be writng off your own kids?

Or is the ivory tower nice and comfy?

Jeez


Ivory tower is great thanks, not all the current generation are wasters but there are far too many expectant wasters out there.
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (andy1979uk @ Jul 3 2012, 12:57 PM) *
Ivory tower is great thanks, not all the current generation are wasters but there are far too many expectant wasters out there.



I think you'll find THE VAST MAJORITY of the younger generation are fine members of our society. You'll also find that those who are not,, are only doing what the 'adults' in their lives have taught them.


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post Jul 3 2012, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Jul 3 2012, 12:59 PM) *
I think you'll find THE VAST MAJORITY of the younger generation are fine members of our society. You'll also find that those who are not,, are only doing what the 'adults' in their lives have taught them.



I would'nt go as far as the majority, I would same some are fine members of society.
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