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post Apr 18 2019, 01:10 PM
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As it's BIG! News at the moment here's an interesting report on electric cars.

http://www.cesifo-group.de/ifoHome/presse/...08-Elektroautos


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post Apr 18 2019, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 18 2019, 02:10 PM) *
As it's BIG! News at the moment here's an interesting report on electric cars.

http://www.cesifo-group.de/ifoHome/presse/...08-Elektroautos


It's pointless.China now accounts for 30 percent of the world's emissions and rising. These idiots in London should pay a visit to Tianamen Square to make the protest. I'd tune in to watch that...
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post Apr 18 2019, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2019, 03:00 PM) *
It's pointless.China now accounts for 30 percent of the world's emissions and rising. These idiots in London should pay a visit to Tianamen Square to make the protest. I'd tune in to watch that...


If my memory serves me right some of the brakes on Chinese vehicles leave a little to be desired. You are correct though in that we are a small nation who is doing our bit whereas the "big", (in more than one sense), players are charging headlong into the abyss, which makes one wonder if it's worth it.


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post Apr 18 2019, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 18 2019, 02:10 PM) *
As it's BIG! News at the moment here's an interesting report on electric cars.

http://www.cesifo-group.de/ifoHome/presse/...08-Elektroautos


What most of us have thought anyway but nice to have the scientific boys on board.


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post Apr 18 2019, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 18 2019, 02:10 PM) *
As it's BIG! News at the moment here's an interesting report on electric cars.

http://www.cesifo-group.de/ifoHome/presse/...08-Elektroautos

I would think in time that would change as technology progresses. Itís not a reason to give up.
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post Apr 18 2019, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 18 2019, 04:59 PM) *
I would think in time that would change as technology progresses. Itís not a reason to give up.

Naw, it's science! Data! Can't beat data.


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post Apr 18 2019, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 18 2019, 05:09 PM) *
Naw, it's science! Data! Can't beat data.

**** the planet then. Doesnít matter at your age.
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post Apr 18 2019, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 18 2019, 06:37 PM) *
**** the planet then. Doesnít matter at your age.

It's irrelevant unless you get the biggest causes of climate change on board. Sure.. chain yourself to the Chinese and US embassies but don't glue yourself to a train, which ironically is far kinder to the environment than cars.
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post Apr 18 2019, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2019, 07:01 PM) *
It's irrelevant unless you get the biggest causes of climate change on board. Sure.. chain yourself to the Chinese and US embassies but don't glue yourself to a train, which ironically is far kinder to the environment than cars.


Personally I think it's too late to prevent the demise of the human race. Had WE started to address the problem 50 years ago,, when the effects were first being noticed, then maybe we could have averted the inevitable but unless the whole planet pulls as one today, (not tomorrow), then it's goodnight Vienna and nice knowing you. As for those idiots who are disrupting London in the misguided belief that anyone is going to take them seriously, I have news for you, no one's listening.


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post Apr 18 2019, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 18 2019, 06:37 PM) *
**** the planet then. Doesnít matter at your age.

Doesn't matter much at your age either, when it happens it happens. Driving a battery on wheels just won't cut it.


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post Apr 18 2019, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 18 2019, 07:53 PM) *
Doesn't matter much at your age either, when it happens it happens. Driving a battery on wheels just won't cut it.

So nothing we do makes any difference and itís probably not happening anyway. Been listening to the Donald?
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post Apr 18 2019, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 18 2019, 08:52 PM) *
So nothing we do makes any difference and itís probably not happening anyway. Been listening to the Donald?

I am afraid Sir Will is correct. Our ability to increase life expectancy and limit global conflicts combined with a massive increase in global living standards across the world has resulted in a population explosion. In effect we are victims of our own success. Mother nature will intervene and this may happen through climate change. I am afraid Newres composting and splitting his rubbish into 7 different bins just ain't gonna make a jot of difference.
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post Apr 18 2019, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2019, 09:13 PM) *
I am afraid Sir Will is correct. Our ability to increase life expectancy and limit global conflicts combined with a massive increase in global living standards across the world has resulted in a population explosion. In effect we are victims of our own success. Mother nature will intervene and this may happen through climate change. I am afraid Newres composting and splitting his rubbish into 7 different bins just ain't gonna make a jot of difference.

Nope, not while China is commissioning one new coal fired power station per week, South America is deforesting the Amazon basin, Americans all wanna drive six liter V8,s because reasons, India is dismantling the world's shipping fleets on its shores, throwing all the poisonous waste back into the sea, Russia doesn't give a **** because, well, Russia. But newres and a bunch of febrile, man made fibre wearing, drive to the edge of London before parking up and getting the tube to the protest, strawberries flown in from Spain eating loons think that driving a Pious is going to solve all the problems. Me, not so much.


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post Apr 18 2019, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 18 2019, 08:52 PM) *
So nothing we do makes any difference and itís probably not happening anyway. Been listening to the Donald?

Nope just read the report from the scientist, remember science? If you're having a problem with some of the bigger words, the ones with four or more letters in them try asking a grown up for help.


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post Apr 18 2019, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Apr 18 2019, 09:58 PM) *
Nope just read the report from the scientist, remember science? If you're having a problem with some of the bigger words, the ones with four or more letters in them try asking a grown up for help.

Perhaps we should just have a global lottery and get rid of 75 percent of humans. Be a start. If you are really serious about stopping climate change then....😂
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post Apr 19 2019, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2019, 10:20 PM) *
Perhaps we should just have a global lottery and get rid of 75 percent of humans. Be a start. If you are really serious about stopping climate change then....😂

Most of those whining about the protest will be dead soon enough anyway.
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post Apr 19 2019, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 19 2019, 06:37 AM) *
Most of those whining about the protest will be dead soon enough anyway.


Interesting little fact on the (sir) David Attenborough programme last night was that a third of greenhouse gasses are caused by deforestation. This is a double whammy in that we are not only increasing CO2 but reducing Oxygen production.
Don't worry about your pension snowflakes because you won't be around to collect it.


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post Apr 19 2019, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2019, 10:13 PM) *
I am afraid Sir Will is correct. Our ability to increase life expectancy and limit global conflicts combined with a massive increase in global living standards across the world has resulted in a population explosion. In effect we are victims of our own success. Mother nature will intervene and this may happen through climate change. I am afraid Newres composting and splitting his rubbish into 7 different bins just ain't gonna make a jot of difference.

Yep. Too many people and growing.
Cause of most of the World's problems.
It's inevitable that Nature will / must intervene.
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post Apr 19 2019, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 19 2019, 08:22 AM) *
Yep. Too many people and growing.
Cause of most of the World's problems.
It's inevitable that Nature will / must intervene.

Well we could just try to reduce greenhouse gases rather than a mass cull.
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post Apr 19 2019, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 18 2019, 07:01 PM) *
It's irrelevant unless you get the biggest causes of climate change on board. Sure.. chain yourself to the Chinese and US embassies but don't glue yourself to a train, which ironically is far kinder to the environment than cars.

Because of China et al. it seems to me to be an even bigger reason to invest in renewables.
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