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post Feb 9 2010, 02:03 PM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=12380

Will it stop the mad grannies and grandads from mowing you down though on their 20mph mobility scooters?
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post Feb 9 2010, 02:44 PM
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Interesting that Mr Betts seems to think that funnelling opposing traffic down parkway and across a one way bridge will help solve Newbury's traffic problems. Won't it cause traffic back-up each side of the bridge?


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post Feb 9 2010, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Feb 9 2010, 02:44 PM) *
Interesting that Mr Betts seems to think that funnelling opposing traffic down parkway and across a one way bridge will help solve Newbury's traffic problems. Won't it cause traffic back-up each side of the bridge?

According to the proposal, only buses, taxis and cycles can use Parkway Bridge. This will reduce the traffic over the bridge and move it elsewhere
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post Feb 9 2010, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE (Bartholomew @ Feb 9 2010, 03:06 PM) *
According to the proposal, only buses, taxis and cycles can use Parkway Bridge. This will reduce the traffic over the bridge and move it elsewhere

Yes you're correct, sorry I misread the article.


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post Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM
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Unfortunately for WBC, London authorities cab enforce moving traffic offences.

Their CCTV cannot be used for prosecution as it fails to be type approved and any prosecution would have to be via the Police, with their rules of evidence applying.

There is already a severe shortage of river crossings for traffic and to force everything via the Robin Hood and Sainsbury's roundabouts is sheer madness.
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post Feb 9 2010, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 9 2010, 02:03 PM) *
http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=12380

Will it stop the mad grannies and grandads from mowing you down though on their 20mph mobility scooters?


Yes, but it won't stop any mobility scooter being used by anyone up to a speed of 4 mph. Such vehicles do not require registration, VED, insurance or driving licence - they are classed as pedestrian vehicles and may be used freely in public pedestrian areas.

Scooters capable of exceeding 4 mph must use the road and require registration with DVLA.
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post Feb 9 2010, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Unfortunately for WBC, London authorities cab enforce moving traffic offences.

Their CCTV cannot be used for prosecution as it fails to be type approved and any prosecution would have to be via the Police, with their rules of evidence applying.

There is already a severe shortage of river crossings for traffic and to force everything via the Robin Hood and Sainsbury's roundabouts is sheer madness.

Yes, this sounds a little short sighted if you factor in all of the additional traffic movements that 1k5 new houses on the racecourse will bring with it.
I wonder if anyone in the Council planning office has considered this?


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post Feb 9 2010, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Unfortunately for WBC, London authorities cab enforce moving traffic offences.

Is there a typo in there somewhere? Because that sentence doesn't make much sense to me. And what does London have to do with West Berkshire?

Now, if they had had the foresight to spend a little more money when they replaced the old bridge and made it two-way, we should be in a much better situation IMO.
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post Feb 9 2010, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 9 2010, 04:15 PM) *
Now, if they had had the foresight to spend a little more money when they replaced the old bridge and made it two-way, we should be in a much better situation IMO.

Spot on Jeff. You wonder why no one in Planning ever thought of this?
I expect they did but were more concerned about budgets than logistics.


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post Feb 9 2010, 05:57 PM
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short-sighted planned. The other option would be to build a western river/rail crossing, say, following the old Didcot branch line to the A4 at Speen.
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post Feb 9 2010, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Feb 9 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Unfortunately for WBC, London authorities cab enforce moving traffic offences.

Question: Did you mean to say "Unfortunately for WBC, ONLY London authorities caN enforce moving traffic offences." ?

If that's what you meant then it's not quite true... Several Authorities outside Lundin have been enforcing bus lanes through CCTV prosecution for a number of years (Manchester, Bath & NE Somerset, Nottingham, Bristol, Sheffield, Brighton & Hove......to name but a few!).

As WBC are intending to restrict the bridge for buses only, that legislation currently exists to allow offences of using bus lanes to be enforced by Local Authorities.
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post Feb 9 2010, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ Feb 9 2010, 05:57 PM) *
short-sighted planned. The other option would be to build a western river/rail crossing, say, following the old Didcot branch line to the A4 at Speen.



Technical point - The Didcot line was to the east and crossed the A4 just past Skylings.

I think you mean the Lambourn(e) Branch. (Now mostly built on!)
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post Feb 9 2010, 09:12 PM
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WHy can't this council do anything properly???? Pedestrianise an area or don't, why do we have to have thic constant half baked idea of certain vehicles being allowed through? It makes no sense.
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 9 2010, 07:54 PM) *
Technical point - The Didcot line was to the east and crossed the A4 just past Skylings.

I think you mean the Lambourn(e) Branch. (Now mostly built on!)


Quite right, even got dragged up there to see the last train in 74/5(??).

A lot of the route still exists up to Speen Lane. Form there it could divert west and join up with Church Lane. Either that or build a A34 slip road around Skinners Green
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 9 2010, 09:12 PM) *
WHy can't this council do anything properly???? Pedestrianise an area or don't, why do we have to have thic constant half baked idea of certain vehicles being allowed through? It makes no sense.


It's only emergency, security and postal vehicles. Pretty logical exceptions.


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post Feb 10 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Feb 10 2010, 10:42 AM) *
It's only emergency, security and postal vehicles. Pretty logical exceptions.

Why Postal vehicles surely they can deliver at the rear of the premises?
What "security" vehicles are these?


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post Feb 10 2010, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Feb 10 2010, 10:50 AM) *
Why Postal vehicles surely they can deliver at the rear of the premises?

Why not handcarts? It's not as though it's a million miles from the sorting office.
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Feb 10 2010, 10:50 AM) *
Why Postal vehicles surely they can deliver at the rear of the premises?
What "security" vehicles are these?


The postal vehicles collect from the post boxes and the security vans collect and deliver cash to the banks etc


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post Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 10 2010, 10:53 AM) *
Why not handcarts? It's not as though it's a million miles from the sorting office.


Do you realy think that the vans collect from just these 2 or 3 boxes and then go straight back to the sorting office?


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post Feb 10 2010, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM) *
Do you realy think that the vans collect from just these 2 or 3 boxes and then go straight back to the sorting office?

No. Before your post I was thinking of deliveries, like Bloggo.
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