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Grumpy
post Apr 20 2012, 09:48 PM
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Having visited the new John Lewis Store earlier today, I fear that Camp Hopson will not be able to compete with the new arrival on it's doorstep.
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post Apr 20 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 20 2012, 10:48 PM) *
Having visited the new John Lewis Store earlier today, I fear that Camp Hopson will not be able to compete with the new arrival on it's doorstep.


Jonathan will have something up his sleeve.
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post Apr 20 2012, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 20 2012, 10:48 PM) *
Having visited the new John Lewis Store earlier today, I fear that Camp Hopson will not be able to compete with the new arrival on it's doorstep.


Thank you for letting us know one of your fears.
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post Apr 21 2012, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 20 2012, 10:48 PM) *
Having visited the new John Lewis Store earlier today, I fear that Camp Hopson will not be able to compete with the new arrival on it's doorstep.


I really think there is room for both. JL do not sell clothes for instance. Camps's tend to be a bit confusing. If you need t-towels, you locate the homeware section only to find they are in a different building.
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post Apr 21 2012, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 20 2012, 10:48 PM) *
Having visited the new John Lewis Store earlier today, I fear that Camp Hopson will not be able to compete with the new arrival on it's doorstep.

What did you end up buying?
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post Apr 21 2012, 09:59 AM
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Camp Hopsons is a department store right? Doesn't that mean it rents the floor space to the independent retailers as well as having it's own stuff?
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post Apr 21 2012, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Apr 21 2012, 10:59 AM) *
Camp Hopsons is a department store right? Doesn't that mean it rents the floor space to the independent retailers as well as having it's own stuff?


Yes, same as John Lewis. Surprised to see Hotel Chocolate in the JL store when there is a Hotel Chocolate shop almost opposite.
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post Apr 21 2012, 03:45 PM
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I thought a department store just meant that it was a store with different departments, i.e. clothes, furniture etc., not necessarily with any concessions.
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post Apr 21 2012, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Apr 21 2012, 08:09 AM) *
I really think there is room for both. JL do not sell clothes for instance.

I think I would agree. The new JL store will increase footfall and may mean less people going to Basingstoke and Reading. Once Camp Hobson have got over the initial shock, I am sure they can tailor (no pun intended) their merchandise offering.
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post Apr 22 2012, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Apr 21 2012, 08:09 AM) *
I really think there is room for both. JL do not sell clothes for instance. Camps's tend to be a bit confusing. If you need t-towels, you locate the homeware section only to find they are in a different building.

CH on the high street is a concession store. Hopson's just rent space there.
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post Apr 22 2012, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 22 2012, 02:12 PM) *
CH on the high street is a concession store. Hopson's just rent space there.


So the Norrhbrook Steet store is concession only, for Elizbeth Arden et al, and the 'new' Park Street bit is Camp's? Well I didn't know that.
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post Apr 24 2012, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 22 2012, 02:12 PM) *
CH on the high street is a concession store. Hopson's just rent space there.

I think you will find that the CH store and the land it sits on is owned by the CH family and share holders and it rents space to concessions.


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post Apr 24 2012, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Apr 24 2012, 09:00 AM) *
I think you will find that the CH store and the land it sits on is owned by the CH family and share holders and it rents space to concessions.

That is what I meant - Hopson's do the renting.
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post Apr 24 2012, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 24 2012, 09:10 AM) *
That is what I meant - Hopson's do the renting.

Sorry, I misunderstood.


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post Apr 24 2012, 08:43 AM
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As I understand the situation, there was a rather devious plan for House of Fraser to purchase Camp Hopson, once the Parkway complex was complete. Unfortunately that plan was scuppered when John Lewis took an interest. (You may remember that House of Fraser objected to the John Lewis planning permission).

Standard Life were obviously desperate to sign John Lewis, otherwise tenants signing up for their new development were very few and far between. Council had to bend over backwards to give JL their planning permission otherwise Parkway would have been a white elephant.

I am still not convinced that Parkway is a success. Time will tell.

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2011/old-news-article-15659
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post Apr 24 2012, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Apr 24 2012, 09:12 AM) *
Sorry, I misunderstood.

s'okay.
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (Grumpy @ Apr 24 2012, 09:43 AM) *
As I understand the situation, there was a rather devious plan for House of Fraser to purchase Camp Hopson, once the Parkway complex was complete. Unfortunately that plan was scuppered when John Lewis took an interest. (You may remember that House of Fraser objected to the John Lewis planning permission).

Standard Life were obviously desperate to sign John Lewis, otherwise tenants signing up for their new development were very few and far between. Council had to bend over backwards to give JL their planning permission otherwise Parkway would have been a white elephant.

I am still not convinced that Parkway is a success. Time will tell.

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/2011/old-news-article-15659

Why would HoF want CH?

Not much of PW is left to rent apart from 'kiosks' & small units. If current tennants start to leave, then I think you could say it was a white elephant.....
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 24 2012, 10:00 AM) *
Why would HoF want CH?

If the shareholders had lost confidence that the present management team were unlikely to deliver dividends on their investment then a sweet deal from HoF may have been accepted and perhaps HoF saw an opportunity to run a profitable operation.
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Not much of PW is left to rent apart from 'kiosks' & small units. If current tennants start to leave, then I think you could say it was a white elephant.....

I suspect that the high end jewellers in PW will be struggling to sell product at such high prices. I mean how many Omega and Breitling watches are going to be bought each week?
I can't see that much of the present passing trade can afford them.


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post Apr 24 2012, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ Apr 24 2012, 10:13 AM) *
If the shareholders had lost confidence that the present management team were unlikely to deliver dividends on their investment then a sweet deal from HoF may have been accepted and perhaps HoF saw an opportunity to run a profitable operation.

I suspect that the high end jewellers in PW will be struggling to sell product at such high prices. I mean how many Omega and Breitling watches are going to be bought each week?
I can't see that much of the present passing trade can afford them.

No I meant why would HoF want to buy CH? I can't see any reason for them to buy it,
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Apr 24 2012, 10:16 AM) *
No I meant why would HoF want to buy CH? I can't see any reason for them to buy it,

Before the arrival of JL in Parkway they may have seen buying CH an opportunity to have a large department store in a prosperous town with little or no competition?


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