 It's Time To Eliminate Gaddafi, Why is nobody taking any real action?? |
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 Mar 29 2011, 09:24 AM
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My concern about Libya is that we are effectively encouraging regime change through civil war. We have acted as the air force wing of the uprising, clearing the way for the rebels to progress through the country.
What should have happened was a no fly zone from when Gaddafi started to attack his own people. We should not be flying over towns boming the Libyan Army to facilitate the progress of the rebels, as that isn't in the resolution from what I understand. |
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Mar 29 2011, 09:37 AM
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RG - totally agree.
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Mar 29 2011, 11:45 AM
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The resolution is up for interpretation. I believe an effective no fly zone would mean disabling any military force that poses a threat to our (air) forces. Government troops are 'attacking' our planes so so we are 'disabling' them.
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Mar 29 2011, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 29 2011, 12:45 PM)  The resolution is up for interpretation. I believe an effective no fly zone would mean disabling any military force that poses a threat to our (air) forces. Government troops are 'attacking' our plains so so we are 'disabling' them. Just like the Belgrano! |
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Mar 29 2011, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 29 2011, 12:54 PM) Just like the Belgrano! Yes. |
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Mar 29 2011, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 29 2011, 10:24 AM) My concern about Libya is that we are effectively encouraging regime change through civil war. We have acted as the air force wing of the uprising, clearing the way for the rebels to progress through the country. What should have happened was a no fly zone from when Gaddafi started to attack his own people. We should not be flying over towns boming the Libyan Army to facilitate the progress of the rebels, as that isn't in the resolution from what I understand. I fear you have misunderstood: Resolution 1973 The UN line is that the other G Man may not use his military power to batter the uprising - a 'fair fight'. It allows for much more than a 'no fly' zone. |
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Mar 29 2011, 07:49 PM
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I see things totally different than what is happening. In the past, I could see a justification in going in and getting Gaddafi, but I don't see the justification in the current conflict. What we are demonstrating time and again is the urgency rogue states need to obtain the nuclear option. We wouldn't dare attack North Korea or China despite their record on human rights.
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Mar 30 2011, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 29 2011, 08:49 PM) I see things totally different than what is happening. In the past, I could see a justification in going in and getting Gaddafi, but I don't see the justification in the current conflict. What we are demonstrating time and again is the urgency rogue states need to obtain the nuclear option. We wouldn't dare attack North Korea or China despite their record on human rights. No. Just because a rogue state has a "nuclear capability" does not mean it can drop one on us. We must not fail to learn the dreadful lessons of appeasement. Never again! |
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Mar 30 2011, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Mar 30 2011, 04:09 PM) No. Just because a rogue state has a "nuclear capability" does not mean it can drop one on us. We must not fail to learn the dreadful lessons of appeasement. Never again! Who decides a rogue state though?  -------------------- Vexatious Candidate?
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Mar 30 2011, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Mar 30 2011, 04:09 PM) No. Just because a rogue state has a "nuclear capability" does not mean it can drop one on us. The rogue states realise that we are not going to be in a hurry to go marching in to their place either. QUOTE (Blake @ Mar 30 2011, 04:09 PM) We must not fail to learn the dreadful lessons of appeasement. Never again! That is probably why some muslims will never get over The Crusades then. |
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Mar 30 2011, 09:23 PM
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A rogue state;
1, Someone who does not agree with us, 2, Someone we know we can beat. -------------------- Gammon. And proud!
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Apr 1 2011, 01:55 AM
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Worth a look even if it is only half true. Libya is featured in the last 5 or 10 minutes.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatc...es-86/episode-1 |
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Apr 1 2011, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 30 2011, 07:12 PM) That is probably why some muslims will never get over The Crusades then. Maybe they'll get over them when they have finished. |
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Apr 1 2011, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 1 2011, 11:23 AM) Maybe they'll get over them when they have finished. The majority of wars all through history have been based on religion differences. -------------------- Vexatious Candidate?
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