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Andy Capp
post Nov 21 2017, 08:29 PM
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MPs (mainly Monster Raving Tories) vote that ‘animals can’t feel pain or emotion’ as part of Brexit bill/
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je suis Charlie
post Nov 23 2017, 07:43 PM
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Which ones?
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Andy Capp
post Nov 23 2017, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 07:43 PM) *
Which ones?

I’ve been trying to find out, but it ia not clear. There isn’t a yes or no list. The 2006 act is somewhat vague.
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post Nov 23 2017, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 23 2017, 08:01 PM) *
I’ve been trying to find out, but it ia not clear. There isn’t a yes or no list. The 2006 act is somewhat vague.

Well, when you are clear, let me know.
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Andy Capp
post Nov 23 2017, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 08:10 PM) *
Well, when you are clear, let me know.

I doubt that will happen as the act is not clear, unless you know better of course?
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post Nov 23 2017, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 23 2017, 08:19 PM) *
I doubt that will happen as the act is not clear, unless you know better of course?

So, you raised the topic, you say you have concerns but are unclear as to what they are and you want me to do your research. Interesting. Personally, the legislation is adequate and in place, what is lacking is the willingness to adequately police the existing legislation. I find amusing that the usual suspects are up in arms about this but seem quite at ease to allow animals to be hung from their hind legs and have their throats sliced open without any effort made to stun them. Cultrool differences innit.
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post Nov 23 2017, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 09:31 PM) *
So, you raised the topic, you say you have concerns but are unclear as to what they are and you want me to do your research. Interesting.

I reported that a large percentage of MPs voted to remove a section of legislation, which is true and clear.

I am concerned about the vote, but I am not alone in there. That is true and clear.

The lack of clarity is the problem. A vagueness that wouldn’t exist if the legislation had been left intact, it seems.

I did not ask you to do any research, but your line of questioning implied you ‘knew better’. I therefore asked if you did.

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 09:31 PM) *
Personally, the legislation is adequate and in place, what is lacking is the willingness to adequately police the existing legislation. I find amusing that the usual suspects are up in arms about this but seem quite at ease to allow animals to be hung from their hind legs and have their throats sliced open without any effort made to stun them.

Who are are you referring to?
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- Andy Capp   Animals don't feel pain.   Nov 21 2017, 08:29 PM
- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 08:29 PM)...   Nov 21 2017, 08:53 PM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 21 2017, 09...   Nov 21 2017, 09:14 PM
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|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Strafin @ Nov 22 2017, 07:29 PM) Y...   Nov 22 2017, 09:41 PM
- - Gazzadp   and suprise, surprise Richard Benyon voted in favo...   Nov 21 2017, 09:24 PM
- - blackdog   Animals certainly don't feel pain like we do -...   Nov 22 2017, 01:26 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (blackdog @ Nov 22 2017, 01:26 AM) ...   Nov 22 2017, 01:36 AM
- - SirWilliam   The problem is that we , ( as a species ) , judge ...   Nov 22 2017, 10:14 AM
|- - Andy Capp   “In formulating and implementing the Union's a...   Nov 22 2017, 07:11 PM
- - Jay Sands   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 21 2017, 08:29 PM)...   Nov 23 2017, 02:56 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Jay Sands @ Nov 23 2017, 02:56 PM)...   Nov 23 2017, 03:36 PM
|- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (Jay Sands @ Nov 23 2017, 02:56 PM)...   Nov 23 2017, 03:43 PM
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- - je suis Charlie   That law protects all animals that are ‘generally ...   Nov 23 2017, 05:00 PM
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- - je suis Charlie   And the basis of the law is an acceptance that all...   Nov 23 2017, 06:55 PM
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- - je suis Charlie   In what way?   Nov 23 2017, 07:37 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 07...   Nov 23 2017, 07:41 PM
- - je suis Charlie   Which ones?   Nov 23 2017, 07:43 PM
- - je suis Charlie   The Government argued animals are already classed ...   Nov 23 2017, 10:18 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 10...   Nov 23 2017, 11:28 PM
- - je suis Charlie   http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41281570   Nov 23 2017, 11:45 PM
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- - Andy Capp   From what I have read, the headlines were misleadi...   Nov 25 2017, 12:50 PM
- - Turin Machine   And I see a whole bunch of luvvies now deleting tw...   Nov 25 2017, 01:14 PM
- - newres   The government voted against accepting EU legislat...   Nov 25 2017, 05:32 PM
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|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Dec 7 2017, 07:42 PM) ...   Dec 7 2017, 07:47 PM
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