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Posted by: Andy Capp Jun 7 2017, 08:09 PM

True or not, this is an interesting read: https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/we-need-to-talk-about-diane-abbott-now-explicit-content/

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jun 7 2017, 08:12 PM

Yes, read that earlier, it gives some useful perspective doesn't it.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 7 2017, 09:12 PM) *
Yes, read that earlier, it gives some useful perspective doesn't it.


Personally I think its a crock of sh1t.
Oh and its factually inaccurate.
Diane Abbott is not a "little black girl".
She is a hard nosed 30 year politician who hasn't got where she is by being "nice". Oh and she is a racist and also the worst kind of hypocrite by sending her children to fee paying schools.

And the Daily Mail and Sun talk sh1t as well.

Posted by: newres Jun 7 2017, 08:25 PM

Some of those tweets are diabolical. It may be that the stuff in th press isn't overtly racist, but it's feeding people's hate and many of the hateful tweets are based on her race. There's some loathsome people around.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 08:27 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:25 PM) *
Some of those tweets are diabolical. It may be that the stuff in th press isn't overtly racist, but it's feeding people's hate and many of the hateful tweets are based on her race. There's some loathsome people around.

Have you seen some of the stuff May has had? Or does she "deserve" it??? Again not a fan but balance is needed.

Social media in politics is evil..

Posted by: newres Jun 7 2017, 08:28 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2017, 09:20 PM) *
Personally I think its a crock of sh1t.
Oh and its factually inaccurate.
Diane Abbott is not a "little black girl".
She is a hard nosed 30 year politician who hasn't got where she is by being "nice". Oh and she is a racist and also the worst kind of hypocrite by sending her children to fee paying schools.

And the Daily Mail and Sun talk sh1t as well.

She isn't racist. That's rubbish unless you have some evidence. Makes me laugh how everyone says that ex EDL person isn't racist but Diane Abbott is. Give me a break.

Posted by: newres Jun 7 2017, 08:29 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2017, 09:27 PM) *
Have you seen some of the stuff May has had? Or does she "deserve" it??? Again not a fan but balance is needed.

Social media in politics is evil..

Is Theresa May called a monkey or a black Cnut?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 08:32 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:28 PM) *
She isn't racist. That's rubbish unless you have some evidence. Makes me laugh how everyone says that ex EDL person isn't racist but Diane Abbott is. Give me a break.


https://ukipvoices.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/labours-racist-hate-department/

I know it is UKIP but twas a quick google. Could have found something easily on another site but couldn't be bothered.

The point is can you imagine a poster that says I will put white people first??? Can you imagine the outrage????

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 08:36 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:29 PM) *
Is Theresa May called a monkey or a black Cnut?


Nope. As she is not black. Just cnut. B1tch. Evil. Hope she gets c@ncer and dies a slow painful death... You have to be very hard nosed to play the politic game. Nasty business.

Posted by: newres Jun 7 2017, 08:39 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2017, 09:32 PM) *
https://ukipvoices.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/labours-racist-hate-department/

I know it is UKIP but twas a quick google. Could have found something easily on another site but couldn't be bothered.

The point is can you imagine a poster that says I will put white people first??? Can you imagine the outrage????

Did you read the article? Funniest thing I've read in weeks. I don't know if the poster is genuine but rather than being anti white it seems more to do with positive discrimination. I don't think that's racist. So perhaps you could find one that actually is evidence of racism.

Posted by: newres Jun 7 2017, 08:40 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2017, 09:36 PM) *
Nope. As she is not black. Just cnut. B1tch. Evil. Hope she gets c@ncer and dies a slow painful death... You have to be very hard nosed to play the politic game. Nasty business.

So there aren't references to her race then? Wasn't the whole point of my post about the racist abuse she suffers?

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:39 PM) *
Did you read the article? Funniest thing I've read in weeks. I don't know if the poster is genuine but rather than being anti white it seems more to do with positive discrimination. I don't think that's racist. So perhaps you could find one that actually is evidence of racism.


Positive discrimination. You mean racism? Cos thats what that is. The sort of discrimination where you interview 2 people.. One non white and one white and you get "leaned on" by your HR department to pick the none white one, even if they are not the best candidate. Diversity. Tick...

Posted by: On the edge Jun 7 2017, 08:58 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:25 PM) *
Some of those tweets are diabolical. It may be that the stuff in th press isn't overtly racist, but it's feeding people's hate and many of the hateful tweets are based on her race. There's some loathsome people around.


Yes, it's very difficult to disagree with that; particularly as there is a substantial body of evidence to show she's not alone. This stuff is generated by people who have been through our education system and live in an advanced apparently civilised nation. Numbers are far too great to put it down to mental ill health; it's simply vile behaviour, no more, no less and demonstrates that the veneer of civilisation is indeed thin. That we don't or won't take steps to elimate it is indicative of our national decline as was this recent ill natured and spiteful election campaign. Yes, I voted to leave the EU but I'm far from convinced about our future with a population like this.

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jun 7 2017, 09:02 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:25 PM) *
Some of those tweets are diabolical. It may be that the stuff in th press isn't overtly racist, but it's feeding people's hate and many of the hateful tweets are based on her race. There's some loathsome people around.

Indeed.

Posted by: On the edge Jun 7 2017, 09:04 PM

Our very confrontational style of press reporting doesn't exactly help matters - see today's Mail!

Posted by: On the edge Jun 7 2017, 09:14 PM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2017, 09:36 PM) *
Nope. As she is not black. Just cnut. B1tch. Evil. Hope she gets c@ncer and dies a slow painful death... You have to be very hard nosed to play the politic game. Nasty business.


Yes, it is very nasty indeed as you have so amply illustrated.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 7 2017, 10:14 PM) *
Yes, it is very nasty indeed as you have so amply illustrated.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8fV0gFp1Pw&feature=youtu.be


Posted by: Andy Capp Jun 7 2017, 09:49 PM

I think Diane Abbott is demonstrably racist, albeit a softe racist. There's the comments about black mothers, blue-eyed blonde Finnish nurses and the white man divide and rule comment. Hardly shocking, but enough to tell me what I might need to know; however, I believe in credit where it is due. She is gaff prone, but she has had an impressive career and perhaps some of her beliefs come from hard experience.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 7 2017, 09:50 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 10:49 PM) *
I think Diane Abbott is demonstrably racist, albeit a softe racist. There's the comments about black mothers, blue-eyed blonde Finnish nurses and the white man divide and rule comment. Hardly shocking, but enough to tell me what I might need to know; however, I believe in credit where it is due. She is gaff prone, but she has had an impressive career and perhaps some of her beliefs come from hard experience.


Agree. Nothing more to add.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jun 7 2017, 10:23 PM

Sick? Like she was on article 50? Yeah, rite. She'll be dancing round like a demented puppy on acid come Friday. Wonderful what you can get away with once you've slept with the boss! The truth is she got promoted to her own personal level of incompetence and now that's been exposed she's ducking back out of view. She's done a good job representing her constituents, but that's it. This is now international politics, if you can't stand the heat etc. Spinelessness, covered up by her party to get a sympathy vote and to distance themselves from a rapidly expanding disaster area.

Posted by: x2lls Jun 8 2017, 12:04 AM

Regardless of the history of the woman, what she says now is all that matters, and that is nothing convincing.

She will be not be taking part in the election campaign for an indefinite period. What? 1.5 days?
She's more dangerous to us than Putin.

Posted by: x2lls Jun 8 2017, 01:01 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 09:28 PM) *
She isn't racist. That's rubbish unless you have some evidence. Makes me laugh how everyone says that ex EDL person isn't racist but Diane Abbott is. Give me a break.



He isn't racist, he is anti muslim extremist. He is anti hate speech by extremist imams invited here. Islam is not a race. Your mind has been poisoned.

Makes me laugh how some read and soak up the rubbish spewed by MSM, and locals for that matter.
How on earth you can attempt to speak for a woman who is (oops, was) potentially responsible for our safety, and refused to answer a simple question is beyond me. How much more butter are you going to put under your shoes?

Posted by: Andy Capp Jun 8 2017, 05:41 AM

It's called being open minded and willing to see both sides before making judgements. Something many on here find very difficult.

Posted by: newres Jun 8 2017, 05:48 AM

QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 8 2017, 02:01 AM) *
He isn't racist, he is anti muslim extremist. He is anti hate speech by extremist imams invited here. Islam is not a race. Your mind has been poisoned.

Makes me laugh how some read and soak up the rubbish spewed by MSM, and locals for that matter.
How on earth you can attempt to speak for a woman who is (oops, was) potentially responsible for our safety, and refused to answer a simple question is beyond me. How much more butter are you going to put under your shoes?

But one of his campaigns is against Muslim sex offenders. Does he target Halal too? I bet he does. So he's not anti extremist, he's anti-Muslim.

Re: Diane Abbott - she's a liability. I wouldn't want her as home secretary but she'd do better than May. May's answer to terrorism? Take away our human rights. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 8 2017, 05:53 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 06:48 AM) *
But one of his campaigns is against Muslim sex offenders. Does he target Halal too? I bet he does. So he's not anti extremist, he's anti-Muslim.

Re: Diane Abbott - she's a liability. I wouldn't want her as home secretary but she'd do better than May. May's answer to terrorism? Take away our human rights. rolleyes.gif


🇬🇧 bill of rights. Thank you. And that includes no rights for jihadis.

Posted by: On the edge Jun 8 2017, 06:14 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 7 2017, 10:23 PM) *
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8fV0gFp1Pw&feature=youtu.be


Manners maketh man.

Just because your peers and friends decend to boorish behaviour, unless you are a sheep, there is no reason to follow.

Posted by: newres Jun 8 2017, 06:15 AM

QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 8 2017, 06:53 AM) *
🇬🇧 bill of rights. Thank you. And that includes no rights for jihadis.

Or we could just stop bombing them.

Posted by: TallDarkAndHandsome Jun 8 2017, 06:25 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 07:15 AM) *
Or we could just stop bombing them.

Sounds like you actually feel sorry for the jihadists. ohmy.gif

Posted by: x2lls Jun 8 2017, 07:55 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 06:48 AM) *
But one of his campaigns is against Muslim sex offenders. Does he target Halal too? I bet he does. So he's not anti extremist, he's anti-Muslim.

Re: Diane Abbott - she's a liability. I wouldn't want her as home secretary but she'd do better than May. May's answer to terrorism? Take away our human rights. rolleyes.gif


You prove my point. YOU brought up halal. A prime example of misinformation. Watch his challenges to reporters , check out the last interview with Andrew Neil.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jun 8 2017, 09:24 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 07:15 AM) *
Or we could just stop bombing them.

Is this hook line and sinker? Or simply someone who doesn't understand what this jihad is all about? It's this level of sleepwalking into history that's going to get us all killed.

Posted by: newres Jun 8 2017, 10:38 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2017, 10:24 AM) *
Is this hook line and sinker? Or simply someone who doesn't understand what this jihad is all about? It's this level of sleepwalking into history that's going to get us all killed.

Do you not think you might be getting a bit carried away?

Posted by: On the edge Jun 8 2017, 10:45 AM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 11:38 AM) *
Do you not think you might be getting a bit carried away?


Oh don't worry Newres, he's just left East Ham, so not far to go!

Posted by: x2lls Jun 8 2017, 01:25 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 11:38 AM) *
Do you not think you might be getting a bit carried away?



The government has already sleep walked(Is that the correct term?), which is why too many known scumbags have achieved their intentions due to inaction.

Posted by: newres Jun 8 2017, 03:07 PM

QUOTE (x2lls @ Jun 8 2017, 02:25 PM) *
The government has already sleep walked(Is that the correct term?), which is why too many known scumbags have achieved their intentions due to inaction.

That's it then. we're all going to die. Je Suis - no point booking in booking the Toff Roader to get that dodgy radio fixed is there?

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jun 8 2017, 03:18 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 04:07 PM) *
That's it then. we're all going to die. Je Suis - no point booking in booking the Toff Roader to get that dodgy radio fixed is there?

No need, solved some of my problems, I kept it tuned in to the BBC but all it was picking up was this annoying whiney noise. Turn out it was a Jeremy Corbyn speech. So that's all good now. 🖕

Posted by: Simon Kirby Jun 8 2017, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 07:15 AM) *
Or we could just stop bombing them.

Quite.

Posted by: On the edge Jun 8 2017, 07:55 PM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2017, 04:18 PM) *
No need, solved some of my problems, I kept it tuned in to the BBC but all it was picking up was this annoying whiney noise. Turn out it was a Jeremy Corbyn speech. So that's all good now. 🖕


Know what you mean, then if you want to hear a Tory, all they have left is that May woman and frankly I thought I'd heard the last of Matron when I left school. Bit of diversity would make a nice change.

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jun 8 2017, 10:12 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 8 2017, 08:55 PM) *
Know what you mean, then if you want to hear a Tory, all they have left is that May woman and frankly I thought I'd heard the last of Matron when I left school. Bit of diversity would make a nice change.

Oooh matron, stick it out! 😊

Posted by: je suis Charlie Jun 14 2017, 07:09 AM

I see she's miraculously better, JC probably laid his healing hands on her. He'll be getting the blind to see and the lame to walk next. Labour, cheap tricks are us.

Posted by: SirWilliam Jun 14 2017, 08:42 AM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 09:09 PM) *
True or not, this is an interesting read: https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/we-need-to-talk-about-diane-abbott-now-explicit-content/


What has the her colour to do with anything ? The first black this or that is irrelevant to her success . I applaud anyone who attends Oxbridge whatever their creed / colour / sex etc. but this obsession with still putting people in boxes seems counter-productive to an inclusive society .
If the archeologists are to be believed we can all trace our ancestry back to Africa so that alone should be sufficient to show we are all the same and should be thus referred .

Posted by: On the edge Jun 14 2017, 09:33 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 14 2017, 08:09 AM) *
I see she's miraculously better, JC probably laid his healing hands on her. He'll be getting the blind to see and the lame to walk next. Labour, cheap tricks are us.


Nah, she's just following precedents in political history. Eden's 'illness' at Suez, Major's 'toothache' when Mrs Thatcher resigned. You wanted Labour to emulate the Conservative way; well, so they have! tongue.gif

Posted by: blackdog Jun 14 2017, 09:41 AM

QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 14 2017, 08:09 AM) *
I see she's miraculously better, JC probably laid his healing hands on her. He'll be getting the blind to see and the lame to walk next. Labour, cheap tricks are us.

Hardly a miracle to sort out blood sugar levels these days.

Posted by: Andy Capp Jun 14 2017, 11:08 AM

I have hunch she has confused her numbers again. Usually type 2 have different symptoms than type 1.

Posted by: Turin Machine Jun 18 2017, 02:10 PM

3 2 1 and she's back in the room! 🤔

Posted by: SirWilliam Jun 19 2017, 08:11 AM

You can't keep a good woman down ..........But damned good fun trying tongue.gif

Posted by: Berkshirelad Jun 19 2017, 01:25 PM

QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 14 2017, 12:08 PM) *
I have hunch she has confused her numbers again. Usually type 2 have different symptoms than type 1.



I agree - I have Type 2; you can't get a hypo with type 2.

Posted by: gel Jun 19 2017, 01:40 PM

Perhaps she has Type 3 just for minority groups.

Posted by: Turin Machine Jun 19 2017, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (gel @ Jun 19 2017, 02:40 PM) *
Perhaps she has Type 3 just for minority groups.

Diabetes hasn't stopped Theresa May, perhaps she has a special Tory type? 🤔

Posted by: gel Jun 19 2017, 02:40 PM

QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 19 2017, 02:42 PM) *
Diabetes hasn't stopped Theresa May, perhaps she has a special Tory type? 🤔
She's never used as an excuse to prevent her doing her job, to my knowledge.

Posted by: On the edge Jun 19 2017, 03:23 PM

Perhaps we need an MP 'person profile', those responsible keep getting wrong 'uns. Here is a starter for 10.

Must

1. agree wholeheartedly with all the party aims, objectives, manifesto pledges.
2. be able to calculate to six decimal places on the spot
3. not have made any even vaguely non populist decisions in the past
4. have absolutely no personal faith or convictions
5. offer resignation whenever implicated unpopular decisions or campaigns
6. become ill or unwell
7. humbly renounce any personal convictions if called to do so
8. not have taken proscribed drugs (subject to reversal shortly)
9. not have deemed unusual sex life





Posted by: Turin Machine Jun 19 2017, 03:35 PM

QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 19 2017, 04:23 PM) *
Perhaps we need an MP 'person profile', those responsible keep getting wrong 'uns. Here is a starter for 10.

Must

1. agree wholeheartedly with all the party aims, objectives, manifesto pledges.
2. be able to calculate to six decimal places on the spot
3. not have made any even vaguely non populist decisions in the past
4. have absolutely no personal faith or convictions
5. offer resignation whenever implicated unpopular decisions or campaigns
6. become ill or unwell
7. humbly renounce any personal convictions if called to do so
8. not have taken proscribed drugs (subject to reversal shortly)
9. not have deemed unusual sex life

That'll do. Sort of Emmanuel Macron.

Posted by: blackdog Jun 19 2017, 06:14 PM

Abbot may well be spouting the truth that she lost control of her blood sugar owing the the pressure of the campaign. That said, it's not eactly making her a good choice for a high pressure cabinet post!

Posted by: Turin Machine Jun 19 2017, 06:22 PM

QUOTE (blackdog @ Jun 19 2017, 07:14 PM) *
Abbot may well be spouting the truth that she lost control of her blood sugar owing the the pressure of the campaign. That said, it's not eactly making her a good choice for a high pressure cabinet post!

She said she hadn't been eating enough. O Rly..

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