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Andy Capp
post Nov 30 2012, 08:28 PM
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What's with all this power cut business? Is it just one of those things or is there something more insidious going on?
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post Nov 30 2012, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 30 2012, 08:28 PM) *
What's with all this power cut business? Is it just one of those things or is there something more insidious going on?



If the duck squeezers get their way its the future, learn to love it.
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post Nov 30 2012, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Nov 30 2012, 08:33 PM) *
If the duck squeezers get their way its the future, learn to love it.



You mean we are going back to the 70s when power cuts was a common occurrence? I hope that is all we are going back to; Scargill, strikes, more strikes, 3 day week, Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, Jonathan King, Cyril Smith, Labour, Debt and the list goes on.
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post Nov 30 2012, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Nov 30 2012, 08:49 PM) *
You mean we are going back to the 70s when power cuts was a common occurrence? I hope that is all we are going back to; Scargill, strikes, more strikes, 3 day week,


All under the Tories I believe. Unlike you to try and re-arrange history just to please yourself. You're just annoyed that you wouldn't be allowed to adopt in Rotherham.
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post Nov 30 2012, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Nov 30 2012, 08:49 PM) *
You mean we are going back to the 70s when power cuts was a common occurrence? I hope that is all we are going back to; Scargill, strikes, more strikes, 3 day week, Gary Glitter, Jimmy Saville, Jonathan King, Cyril Smith, Labour, Debt and the list goes on.


Ahh, the good ole days.
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post Nov 30 2012, 10:48 PM
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post Dec 2 2012, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 30 2012, 08:28 PM) *
What's with all this power cut business? Is it just one of those things or is there something more insidious going on?



Insidious?


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post Dec 2 2012, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 2 2012, 01:20 AM) *
Insidious?

Yes, what is the problem with that? Is this simply accidental power cuts, or something more serious going on.
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post Dec 2 2012, 02:48 PM
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I think it's simply a case of ageing infrastructure and the need to provide new power stations to replace those being decommissioned.
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post Dec 2 2012, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 2 2012, 02:48 PM) *
I think it's simply a case of ageing infrastructure and the need to provide new power stations to replace those being decommissioned.


Well lets have clause 4 back. It was Reading Labour Party who moved the successful motion to nationalise power and railways at the conference before the 1945 election. No reason why they couldn't do it again!


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post Dec 2 2012, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 2 2012, 02:48 PM) *
I think it's simply a case of ageing infrastructure and the need to provide new power stations to replace those being decommissioned.


Two words, water wheel.
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post Dec 2 2012, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Dec 2 2012, 03:42 PM) *
Two words, water wheel.


Two more words. Won't work.
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post Dec 2 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Dec 2 2012, 03:10 PM) *
Well lets have clause 4 back.

Just looked it up (the original that was abolished):

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"To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry of service." Clause IV, part 4.


Sounds like the Communist Manifesto.

By the way, channel hopping today trying to find some less-boring news than Ed Balls/George Osborne, I chanced upon Bob Crowe being interviewed on Russia Today. wink.gif
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post Dec 2 2012, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Dec 2 2012, 04:16 PM) *
Just looked it up (the original that was abolished):



Sounds like the Communist Manifesto.

By the way, channel hopping today trying to find some less-boring news than Ed Balls/George Osborne, I chanced upon Bob Crowe being interviewed on Russia Today. wink.gif


I know. Dredge around in any party barrel and there is still life at the bottom!

The strange thing about nationalisation is that it was Tory governments that started, the 1930s versions - BBC, Central Electricity Board, London Transport, and Imperial Airways. Labour in the shape of Herbert Morrison was much more keen on the municipal model - which was really started by the Chamberlains (Lib / Tory)


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post Dec 2 2012, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 30 2012, 08:28 PM) *
What's with all this power cut business? Is it just one of those things or is there something more insidious going on?


Andy, what prompted this? Were you thinking about the latest development claimed by our transatlantic cousins - who are telling us they can feed very high voltage pulses into local area networks which will 'pop' every electronic bit of kit connected to it. Thus disabling communications etc. at a stroke?


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post Dec 2 2012, 04:56 PM
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If you pass thorugh any retail centre, in any town or retail park, you will see a humungous waste of power with lights blazing 24/7. If shops were compelled to cut down on power usage, much needed resorce would be saved.

The three day week, back in the 70's forced the government to take drastic action to save energy. Why the h.e.l.l isn't something similiar put into action now? It doesn't have to be so harsh, but surely, waste should be made socially unacceptable.


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post Dec 2 2012, 05:06 PM
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Most shops have their lights blazing for security reasons... cameras and also part of terms of insurance to have fully lit premisis 24/7 for I-D purposes.


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post Dec 2 2012, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Dec 2 2012, 04:56 PM) *
If you pass thorugh any retail centre, in any town or retail park, you will see a humungous waste of power with lights blazing 24/7. If shops were compelled to cut down on power usage, much needed resorce would be saved.

The three day week, back in the 70's forced the government to take drastic action to save energy. Why the h.e.l.l isn't something similiar put into action now? It doesn't have to be so harsh, but surely, waste should be made socially unacceptable.


Really good point. This was in the media a while back, but no longer in the headlines. Would be great to get local companies to switch lighting off at night.
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post Dec 2 2012, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Dec 2 2012, 05:34 PM) *
Really good point. This was in the media a while back, but no longer in the headlines. Would be great to get local companies to switch lighting off at night.


And get people to switch off their **** patio lights when they're finished with them.
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post Dec 2 2012, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Dec 2 2012, 05:06 PM) *
Most shops have their lights blazing for security reasons... cameras and also part of terms of insurance to have fully lit premisis 24/7 for I-D purposes.



So what?

Don't just sit there and accept what 'the rules' say. Rules are never written in stone.

Cameras can work without visible light, if anyone enters THEN put the lights on!!

Simples, and common sense. We have technology, for crying out loud use it.


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