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Simon Kirby
post Oct 5 2016, 05:57 AM
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Leader quits after 18 days. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37558485


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Andy Capp
post Oct 5 2016, 06:27 AM
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I heard she was spat at.
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post Oct 5 2016, 01:09 PM
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And Farage is back again. What a joke this party is!
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post Oct 5 2016, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Oct 5 2016, 02:09 PM) *
And Farage is back again. What a joke this party is!


Makes you wonder why they don't do better in our local pantomime; presumably because we have bigger comedians laugh.gif


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je suis Charlie
post Oct 5 2016, 07:40 PM
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Call me Nige is back! Yippee!
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post Oct 5 2016, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 5 2016, 08:40 PM) *
Call me Nige is back! Yippee!


You are like a big kid Je suits Charlie!

Still, he is like a child's Christmas present, great at the time, but in a day or two the batteries are flag and the wheels have come off.

He's only there for a few weeks whilst another election takes place


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post Oct 5 2016, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 5 2016, 10:16 PM) *
You are like a big kid Je suits Charlie!

Still, he is like a child's Christmas present, great at the time, but in a day or two the batteries are flag and the wheels have come off.

He's only there for a few weeks whilst another election takes place


Marmite Nige has changed the whole Country. Love him or hate him he is one of the most interesting and important politicians of the last 40 years.
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post Oct 6 2016, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 5 2016, 11:10 PM) *
Marmite Nige has changed the whole Country. Love him or hate him he is one of the most interesting and important politicians of the last 40 years.

Arguably he has divided the country. Well, that's how I see it. He's a bit of a joke really, with his Union Jack shoes.
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post Oct 6 2016, 05:09 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 5 2016, 11:10 PM) *
Marmite Nige has changed the whole Country. Love him or hate him he is one of the most interesting and important politicians of the last 40 years.

That is very true TDH.
He and his party are certainly not a "joke".
If they were we would not have seen the momentous changes that have and will occur since that vote in June.
A vote which would not have happened without Nigel and his "joke" party.
However, now that this has been achieved I am also unsure what the party now stands for.
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post Oct 6 2016, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 6 2016, 06:09 AM) *
That is very true TDH.
He and his party are certainly not a "joke".
If they were we would not have seen the momentous changes that have and will occur since that vote in June.
A vote which would not have happened without Nigel and his "joke" party.
However, now that this has been achieved I am also unsure what the party now stands for.


That's the nub of it. Without taking anything away from what he's done, he (or rather his party activists) have fallen into the classic trap - what comes next?


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post Oct 6 2016, 06:30 AM
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Bear in mind we have no independence yet, and our mate Nige doesn't seem interested in being politically a part of its isolation; if we ever get there. Legally the referendum means nothing. If he is to claim a victory it is now he needs to be there brow beating the government and holding it to account in the negotiations.
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post Oct 6 2016, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 6 2016, 06:09 AM) *
That is very true TDH.
He and his party are certainly not a "joke".
If they were we would not have seen the momentous changes that have and will occur since that vote in June.
A vote which would not have happened without Nigel and his "joke" party.
However, now that this has been achieved I am also unsure what the party now stands for.

Certainly what they have "accomplished" is no joke. And UKIP are no joke, but he is. He could just as easily be a nutty Bavarian in Lederhosen if he was German. He's a caricature.
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post Oct 6 2016, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 6 2016, 07:32 AM) *
Certainly what they have "accomplished" is no joke. And UKIP are no joke, but he is. He could just as easily be a nutty Bavarian in Lederhosen if he was German. He's a caricature.

I think your argument is the wrong way round. Nigel is the only sentient being in the party. The party is a joke without him.
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post Oct 6 2016, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 6 2016, 07:37 AM) *
I think your argument is the wrong way round. Nigel is the only sentient being in the party. The party is a joke without him.

The party management is chaotic but there are plenty of normal people in the rank and file, my major concern is that the views made normal by Farage and the success of the party were hitherto unacceptably intolerant and only voiced publicly by the National Front. UKIP may well continue as the new National Front but the Tories under May have pretty much stolen their clothes. May is positioning the Tory Party as the party of the working class right because she wants their votes though I don't really see the local Conservative Clubs being quite so welcoming when the white vans start parking in the car park and the new members expect to get in without a blazer, so I can see UKIP lingering as a local party of the far right and working nationally as a far-right pressure group influencing the Tories.


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post Oct 6 2016, 09:48 AM
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At least UKIP don't want to strip Britain naked then, humiliated and penniless, present us trussed up like a turkey on Christmas morning to the Russian paymaster. So on balance I'll take UKIP over labour thank you!
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post Oct 6 2016, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 6 2016, 10:48 AM) *
At least UKIP don't want to strip Britain naked then, humiliated and penniless, present us trussed up like a turkey on Christmas morning to the Russian paymaster. So on balance I'll take UKIP over labour thank you!

Is that in the manifesto then?
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post Oct 6 2016, 11:52 AM
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I think he read it in the "hi, its Jeremy and this is momentum" party handbook. Otherwise known as 'how to hate Britain and get away with it! rolleyes.gif


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post Oct 6 2016, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 6 2016, 10:48 AM) *
At least UKIP don't want to strip Britain naked then, humiliated and penniless, present us trussed up like a turkey on Christmas morning to the Russian paymaster.

No, it's to an Indian, Arab, American, French or China one instead.

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So on balance I'll take UKIP over labour thank you!

Neither are suitable in my view.
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 6 2016, 01:02 PM) *
No, it's to an Indian, Arab, American, French or China one instead.

Better dead than red cool.gif


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post Oct 6 2016, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 6 2016, 10:48 AM) *
At least UKIP don't want to strip Britain naked then, humiliated and penniless, present us trussed up like a turkey on Christmas morning to the Russian paymaster. So on balance I'll take UKIP over labour thank you!


Oh, I don't know Charlie, life in the tractor factory wasn't too bad, we always had a job and whatever overtime we needed. Three weeks paid on the Black Sea every year, a reasonable flat, all repairs included. Free top rate health care, glasses, teeth, the lot, kids at university for nothing, plus a gaurenteed pension. I'm not sure us peasants did that well when the wall came down Charlie, sure, we couldn't criticise the Government, but that don't get you lot do far do it?


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