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Simon Kirby
post Aug 17 2016, 02:52 PM
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[edit: sorry about the title, that should of course read M34]

How about the M34 from Winchester to Bicester? The A34 is such a strategic route that it's crying out for better capacity, and the safety record is getting quite poor too. I'm far from keen to see a loss of habitat but there's no reason why any loss can't be mitigated with habitat creation elsewhere, and if the road was designed well there's no reason why noise couldn't actually be reduced. Obviously there's thecost to consider, but this is the kind of civil engineering that I'd sooner we were spending that £200billion Trident money on.


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Sherlock
post Aug 26 2016, 02:41 PM
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I completely agree that the road should by upgraded to a motorway but given the government's unwillingness to fund capital projects, except those that make no sense like HS2, it'll never happen. There's certainly no chance of a rail project in the area in the foreseeable future.

Even if funding were to be made available - and with the cost of government borrowing at a record low, it could be - it would take forever, perhaps 10-15 years to get approval even it was ever forthcoming. Look at the endless delays to the Sandleford development. How many more will be maimed and killed in that period?

We need to know what seems to be a big uptick in the number of accidents but at the end of the day it must be driver behaviour - cars and lorries don't crash themselves. Chronic tailgating, aggressive driving by drivers of cars and HGVs and a few drivers travelling very high speeds are all very evident to anyone who uses the roads.

Given that TVP are reducing front line police numbers during a period of ever increasing population and road use it seems unlikely that we'll see traffic police on the road and they can only be of limited effectivness.

Seems to me that average speed cameras covering the worst affected stretches and much more use of CCTV to monitor driver behaviour are amongst the short term solutions which should be looked at. Maybe the next generation will get to see a significantly improved road.
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post Aug 26 2016, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Sherlock @ Aug 26 2016, 03:41 PM) *
those that make no sense like HS2,

Explain please.
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- Simon Kirby   M43   Aug 17 2016, 02:52 PM
- - JeffG   And there was me thinking this was going to be abo...   Aug 17 2016, 05:47 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 17 2016, 06:47 PM) And...   Aug 17 2016, 05:56 PM
- - On the edge   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 17 2016, 03:52 P...   Aug 17 2016, 05:59 PM
- - Biker1   Or how about investing in the long term and rebuil...   Aug 17 2016, 08:54 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 17 2016, 09:54 PM) Or...   Aug 17 2016, 09:00 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 17 2016, 10:00 P...   Aug 17 2016, 09:06 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 17 2016, 10:06 PM) Un...   Aug 17 2016, 09:13 PM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 17 2016, 10:13 P...   Aug 18 2016, 08:12 AM
|- - Lolly   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 17 2016, 09:13 P...   Aug 18 2016, 09:49 AM
- - Simon Kirby   As much as I'd like to get freight off the roa...   Aug 18 2016, 01:03 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 18 2016, 02:03 P...   Aug 18 2016, 09:09 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 18 2016, 10:09 PM) Br...   Aug 18 2016, 09:29 PM
- - gel   Another multiple shunt at Botley last night: http...   Aug 26 2016, 06:46 AM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 26 2016, 08:02 PM) Ex...   Aug 26 2016, 08:07 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 26 2016, 09:07 PM)...   Aug 27 2016, 01:16 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 26 2016, 09:07 PM)...   Sep 16 2016, 08:25 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 16 2016, 09:25 AM) Or...   Sep 16 2016, 12:22 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 16 2016, 01:22 PM)...   Sep 17 2016, 08:40 AM
- - motormad   You can't just upgrade the A34 to be a motorwa...   Sep 14 2016, 12:01 PM
- - Washwaterman   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 14 2016, 01:01 PM) ...   Sep 14 2016, 08:31 PM


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