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blackdog
post Apr 4 2013, 11:29 AM
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Dear Julian,

In your latest Greenham Newsletter you explain the current decision making system at WBC and then add the following paragraph:

Democratic? Not very – but it is the system we currently have to work under at WBC, and despite our best efforts as an Opposition to get back to the old “Committee” system (where every Committee was made up of members from both political sides in proportion to the overall split, each of whom had the right to both speak and vote), the Conservative administration rather like the absolute power that the Executive system confers on the 10 Executive Tory councillors, and they will not entertain any discussion about changing it.

In the light of this I was wondering if you could explain why, when the Lib Dems were the majority party at WBC, they replaced the Committee system with the Executive system if they are so against it?

I trust that a commitment to revert to the Committee system will be part of your manifesto in 2015?

Yours sincerely

Blackdog
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Andy Capp
post Apr 5 2013, 11:20 PM
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I'm uncomfortable with this outing idea. I am much more interested in the quality of the posts, than who is behind them.
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 5 2013, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 6 2013, 12:20 AM) *
I'm uncomfortable with this outing idea. I am much more interested in the quality of the posts, than who is behind them.


Me too. I've known for a while now, I wouldn't have mentioned it but I was talking to someone yesterday and this thread is complete and utter BS as a result of that chat.

The lengths some people go to in order to deceive.

Come on Blackdog, I'd like you to deny it so that when everything is said and done, your true colours will be seen by everyone. I will also be looking at how many past posts you edit this week with interest ;-)
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blackdog
post Apr 6 2013, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Apr 6 2013, 12:56 AM) *
Me too. I've known for a while now, I wouldn't have mentioned it but I was talking to someone yesterday and this thread is complete and utter BS as a result of that chat.

The lengths some people go to in order to deceive.

Come on Blackdog, I'd like you to deny it so that when everything is said and done, your true colours will be seen by everyone. I will also be looking at how many past posts you edit this week with interest ;-)

So, let me get this right - you wouldn't believe a denial - you just want me to deny it so you can expose me/JSH as a fraud?

And the incentive for me to deny it is?

Funny how this thread is drifting away from Labour's involvement in the de-democratisation of local government.

Still must be off now - 57 posts to edit before dawn.
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Richard Garvie
post Apr 6 2013, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 6 2013, 01:05 AM) *
So, let me get this right - you wouldn't believe a denial - you just want me to deny it so you can expose me/JSH as a fraud?

And the incentive for me to deny it is?

Funny how this thread is drifting away from Labour's involvement in the de-democratisation of local government.

Still must be off now - 57 posts to edit before dawn.


Is that a double contradiction??

What you are saying essentially is that you won't deny it because it's true??

Was this thread about Labour's de-democratisation of politics or asking yourself why the Lib Dems changed the way West Berks operates?? There was no mention of Labour until you answered your own question, so I'm guessing only you would have known that it would eventually be about Labour.
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- blackdog   A question for Julian Swift-Hook   Apr 4 2013, 11:29 AM
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